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    Default You don't have rights, you have privileges

    There has been a lot of discussion from folks (both sides) complaining that their such-and-such inalienable right has been threatened, amended or taken away completely. Or perhaps some candidate has promised to do so.
    This led me to look up a routine by the legendary George Carlin, who was known to skewer liberals and conservatives equally. George always called it as he saw it.

    Think you have rights (constitutional or otherwise)? Think again.


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    Strange....I Liked Carlin for his mastery of Semantics.

    However his example of the internment camps under liberal Franklin Roosevelt
    is highly misleading.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    In what way misleading?
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Think you have rights (constitutional or otherwise)? Think again.
    Meh. He spent half the time whining about religion. I don't recall any credible arguments that the BoRs came from God. Nevertheless he's partly correct; we have Natural Rights (God given or not doesn't matter), Constitutional rights, and from there are privileges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Meh. He spent half the time whining about religion. I don't recall any credible arguments that the BoRs came from God. Nevertheless he's partly correct; we have Natural Rights (God given or not doesn't matter), Constitutional rights, and from there are privileges.
    Yeah, I got the feeling over the years that 'ol George wasn't really fond of religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Meh. He spent half the time whining about religion. I don't recall any credible arguments that the BoRs came from God. Nevertheless he's partly correct; we have Natural Rights (God given or not doesn't matter), Constitutional rights, and from there are privileges.
    Semantics? You grasping at straws? I agree, we have the right to live so long as we can do so. How does that work with your other arguments? When you make an argument, not everyone forgets from one minute to the next.

    Flip-flopping between the written law "rights" and actual rights doesn't suit you. Or does it?

    Technically, you have the right to draw your next breath so long as you can defend it. In another thread you're asking "Why fight?". To live. Get off the fence. I'll fight for what I have. What happens to you? Gonna argue a bullet to death? I can guarantee a winner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Semantics? You grasping at straws? I agree, we have the right to live so long as we can do so. How does that work with your other arguments? When you make an argument, not everyone forgets from one minute to the next.

    Flip-flopping between the written law "rights" and actual rights doesn't suit you. Or does it?

    Technically, you have the right to draw your next breath so long as you can defend it. In another thread you're asking "Why fight?". To live. Get off the fence. I'll fight for what I have. What happens to you? Gonna argue a bullet to death? I can guarantee a winner.
    Gunny, and....much to the displeasure of everyone who thinks only they can decide what WE THE PEOPLE have. The one RIGHT everyone has, no matter what nation they live in is...THE RIGHT TO BE STUPID. Nobody will ever take that away from ANYONE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Think you have rights (constitutional or otherwise)? Think again.
    The usual fibs and whines by the usual board big-govt pushers.

    In fact, you do have rights. The government sometimes violates them. More and more as the big-govt pushers gain power.

    But that doesn't mean you don't have those rights any more. Just that the govt doesn't mind violating them.

    From that, you should not decide that your rights are gone.

    Instead, I suggest you decide that that particular government should be gone.

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    Gabs is the perfect example of the left/lib/progressives of today. what she spewed is exactly how they see you and things and if you don't BOW to them then you deserve to now be gunned down in the streets
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    The usual fibs and whines by the usual board big-govt pushers.

    In fact, you do have rights. The government sometimes violates them. More and more as the big-govt pushers gain power.

    But that doesn't mean you don't have those rights any more. Just that the govt doesn't mind violating them.

    From that, you should not decide that your rights are gone.

    Instead, I suggest you decide that that particular government should be gone.

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    In fact, you do NOT have ANY Rights you can't back up by force of arms. The very government you decry is the same one that tells you that you have "Rights". Those "Rights" aren't worth the paper they're printed on if you aren't willing to fight to death for them.

    Speaking of the "usual suspects", you got quite a contradiction going. You hate the government that gives you those "Rights".

    You have the "Right" to breathe when you are born. Provided you can manage to keep yourself warm, fed and breathing. This construct you call "Rights" is man-made and doesn't mean jack shit in the reality of life.
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    Gunny, and All. Government DOES NOT GIVE US OUR RIGHTS.

    The U.S. Constitution does. It just happens that Far TOO MANY Americans are miserably uninformed, uneducated, and dependent on Government to do their BLIND Thinking.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Gunny, and All. Government DOES NOT GIVE US OUR RIGHTS.

    The U.S. Constitution does. It just happens that Far TOO MANY Americans are miserably uninformed, uneducated, and dependent on Government to do their BLIND Thinking.
    I completely agree. Look at what I have scribbled all over the board. I swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Not some dumbsshit politician that thinks she's above the law.

    Again, that paper and ink are worth the blood that has been shed to defend it. You stop defending it, you lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Semantics? You grasping at straws? I agree, we have the right to live so long as we can do so. How does that work with your other arguments? When you make an argument, not everyone forgets from one minute to the next.

    Flip-flopping between the written law "rights" and actual rights doesn't suit you. Or does it?

    Technically, you have the right to draw your next breath so long as you can defend it. In another thread you're asking "Why fight?". To live. Get off the fence. I'll fight for what I have. What happens to you? Gonna argue a bullet to death? I can guarantee a winner.
    I'm not really sure what you're talking about because none of those are true statements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    I'm not really sure what you're talking about because none of those are true statements.
    They are quite true. Man gives you "Rights". God doesn't. That is a Western political notion. It's the reason we've got our noses in everyone else's business when we can't handle even our own.

    Fact: you have the right to survive as long as you are able to do so. The rest is crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    They are quite true. Man gives you "Rights". God doesn't. That is a Western political notion. It's the reason we've got our noses in everyone else's business when we can't handle even our own.

    Fact: you have the right to survive as long as you are able to do so. The rest is crap.
    You've successfully construed my post far beyond the point of the thread.
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