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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    You know I agree with you on Kasich, but losing Ohio doesn't strike me as a good idea.
    Well, shoot, that's a given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Well, shoot, that's a given.
    That was the point. He should be focusing on the election, not the primary losers. Revenge doesn't play well for the winner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    That was the point. He should be focusing on the election, not the primary losers. Revenge doesn't play well for the winner.
    Are you comfortable with the whole article being based on one unnamed source?

    If it is true, I think it is showing Trump's lack of experience in playing political games. Others like the Clintons do same and far worse, but keep it on the down-low much better.

    As for Cruz, I will never forget what he did to Carson. He can claim no moral high ground, and deserves what he gets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Are you comfortable with the whole article being based on one unnamed source?

    If if it is true, I think it is showing Trump's lack of experience in playing political games. Others like the Clintons do same and far worse, but keep it on the down-low much better.

    As for Cruz, I will never forget what he did to Carson. He can claim no moral high ground, and deservrves what he gets.
    Listen to his 'farewell thank you to Cleveland" this morning. It's there.

    Very much like Bush not taking on the MSM after 9/11 good feelings wore off. Big unforced errors.

    I don't like Trump, but it seems he may win in spite of himself.

    As for Cruz, I don't care. I don't think he's whom the focus should be on the day after Trump accepted the nomination though.


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    I won't vote for Trump or Hillary.

    It's always odd to me that people talk about how we have a democratic right to vote for who we consider the best candidates.
    But then out of the other side of the mouth they say you can ONLY choose one of these 2 horrific people or you're neigh on a traitor.
    And you're helping bring Armageddon to the country.

    Don't step out of party lines or we'll all die. That's always sounded like a sales pitch for the major parties to me.
    It's been my belief that the parties need the people not the other way around.
    It seems to me that it'd only take a 3rd of the VOTING public to shake the 2 parties to the core and really change the country.

    IMO the 2 main party candidates are the most frightening i've seen in my lifetime.
    I'm slightly less concerned about Trump. There are some real things I agree with that I think he may in fact be sincere about.
    But that fear based, restoring "Law and Order", speech he gave was disturbing in a lot of ways to me.
    Nothing really about restoring the constitution... except by SCOTUS appointments. Why? because i doubt he's read it much (at all?) or that he sincerely cares about it that much.
    SO anyway I'll have no part in adding my support to any dangerous people. My stomach turn just imagining voting for either Trump or Hillary

    Frankly I'm not sure I can vote for Johnson either. He's far to left wing socially for me. But it seems that may just be a sign of the times.
    Looks like I'll vote constitution party candidates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I won't vote for Trump or Hillary.

    It's always odd to me that people talk about how we have a democratic right to vote for who we consider the best candidates.
    But then out of the other side of the mouth they say you can ONLY choose one of these 2 horrific people or you're neigh on a traitor.
    And you're helping bring Armageddon to the country.

    Don't step out of party lines or we'll all die. That's always sounded like a sales pitch for the major parties to me.
    It's been my belief that the parties need the people not the other way around.
    It seems to me that it'd only take a 3rd of the VOTING public to shake the 2 parties to the core and really change the country.

    IMO the 2 main party candidates are the most frightening i've seen in my lifetime.
    I'm slightly less concerned about Trump. There are some real things I agree with that I think he may in fact be sincere about.
    But that fear based, restoring "Law and Order", speech he gave was disturbing in a lot of ways to me.
    Nothing really about restoring the constitution... except by SCOTUS appointments. Why? because i doubt he's read it much (at all?) or that he sincerely cares about it that much.
    SO anyway I'll have no part in adding my support to any dangerous people. My stomach turn just imagining voting for either Trump or Hillary

    Frankly I'm not sure I can vote for Johnson either. He's far to left wing socially for me. But it seems that may just be a sign of the times.
    Looks like I'll vote constitution party candidates.
    I agree with the thinking in most ways, it took these two though for me not to be practical enough to go the path of voting for someone who doesn't have a chance, at least in this election cycle.

    Ultimately the only way to shake up the elite is to threaten to show they have no clothes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I agree with the thinking in most ways, it took these two though for me not to be practical enough to not go the path of voting for someone who doesn't have a chance, at least in this election cycle.

    Ultimately the only way to shake up the elite is to threaten to show they have no clothes.

    Great. Now I have a mental image of Trump and Clinton sans clothing...


    I'll never be able to scrub that from my mind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    Great. Now I have a mental image of Trump and Clinton sans clothing...


    I'll never be able to scrub that from my mind...
    Oh that is ugly! LOL!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    That was the point. He should be focusing on the election, not the primary losers. Revenge doesn't play well for the winner.
    I have to agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Listen to his 'farewell thank you to Cleveland" this morning. It's there.

    Very much like Bush not taking on the MSM after 9/11 good feelings wore off. Big unforced errors.

    I don't like Trump, but it seems he may win in spite of himself.

    As for Cruz, I don't care. I don't think he's whom the focus should be on the day after Trump accepted the nomination though.
    I think the day after was the only good time to address the two guys who did not honor their pledge. If he keeps it up, I'm with you.
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