Putin ordered email leak so Trump can win?

[Russ]

This is like Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary with Monica Lewinsky, and when Hillary confronts him with it, instead of saying "That's not true" he just says "Who told you that?" If the Dems don't argue about the emails but just question where they came from, they are just flat out admitting their guilt.

[jimnyc]

This is like Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary with Monica Lewinsky, and when Hillary confronts him with it, instead of saying "That's not true" he just says "Who told you that?" If the Dems don't argue about the emails but just question where they came from, they are just flat out admitting their guilt.

Billy Boy!!

[Russ]

Billy Boy!!

That is hilarious!

[Kathianne]

This is like Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary with Monica Lewinsky, and when Hillary confronts him with it, instead of saying "That's not true" he just says "Who told you that?" If the Dems don't argue about the emails but just question where they came from, they are just flat out admitting their guilt.

I see your point, but do think it's important if Russia is attempting to influence our elections. Doesn't matter if it were for one side or another. In actuality it's likely at some point that they also will release from RNC, equally likely to have found things that will embarrass those elites too.

For the record, these wikileaks have zero to do with the Clinton email scandal, which wasn't politics, rather a crime that put our security in jeopardy.

[Russ]

I see your point, but do think it's important if Russia is attempting to influence our elections. Doesn't matter if it were for one side or another. In actuality it's likely at some point that they also will release from RNC, equally likely to have found things that will embarrass those elites too.

For the record, these wikileaks have zero to do with the Clinton email scandal, which wasn't politics, rather a crime that put our security in jeopardy.

Yes, if it is Russia then I don't want Russia trying to fix our elections, but then again even if Russia hacked these emails, they didn't write these emails. So it's not quite the same.

And of course there is slim to none evidence that the emails were hacked by Russia - it is just dust being through up by Hillary's team. Wikileaks doesn't even admit they came from Guccifer 2.0, and even if they did there is only vague evidence that he is either Russian or Eastern European, and no evidence that he is part of the government of any of those countries.

[Black Diamond]

Yes, if it is Russia then I don't want Russia trying to fix our elections, but then again even if Russia hacked these emails, they didn't write these emails. So it's not quite the same.

And of course there is slim to none evidence that the emails were hacked by Russia - it is just dust being through up by Hillary's team. Wikileaks doesn't even admit they came from Guccifer 2.0, and even if they did there is only vague evidence that he is either Russian or Eastern European, and no evidence that he is part of the government of any of those countries.

Can you comment on Krauthammer's theory?

[Gunny]

Can you comment on Krauthammer's theory?

From a common sense point of view? What would Putin have to gain? He's trampled all over Obama and will do the same to Hillary. What does he get out of someone with balls and unpredictable being in the WH?

Putin may like Trump for whatever reason but he's got an end game to it.

If Hillary's e-mails got leaked it starts with HER.

[Russ]

Can you comment on Krauthammer's theory?

About Krauthammer's theory, I think its possible but no more possible than a thousand other theories. I could see Putin wanting to help Trump because he can deal with him and maybe because he thinks Trump won't support NATO, but I could also see Putin wanting to help Hillary because he can buy her with a few million check to the Clinton Foundation.

Overall, I think its actually a private hacker or group of hackers from Eastern Europe or from Russia. I'm surprised Krauthammer put forward this theory, it's not really his style.

[CSM]

Well, it seems to me that many different countries try to influence US elections. Wouldn't surprise me if Russia/Putin did hack then release the emails. It does make me wonder what kind of influence peddling went on and probably still is going on through the Clinton Foundation.

[Kathianne]

About Krauthammer's theory, I think its possible but no more possible than a thousand other theories. I could see Putin wanting to help Trump because he can deal with him and maybe because he thinks Trump won't support NATO, but I could also see Putin wanting to help Hillary because he can buy her with a few million check to the Clinton Foundation.

Overall, I think its actually a private hacker or group of hackers from Eastern Europe or from Russia. I'm surprised Krauthammer put forward this theory, it's not really his style.

He didn't put it forward, it was reported that DNC was hacked months and months ago. It was traced back to Russia, but not exactly where. Without names or such, we had an IP here that went to Kremlin. So yeah, seems pretty standard for Russians to to try and find stuff here, even on messageboards through 'above board' means, so it's not surprising they use hackers for more important sources.

[Black Diamond]

He didn't put it forward, it was reported that DNC was hacked months and months ago. It was traced back to Russia, but not exactly where. Without names or such, we had an IP here that went to Kremlin. So yeah, seems pretty standard for Russians to to try and find stuff here, even on messageboards through 'above board' means, so it's not surprising they use hackers for more important sources.

Krauthammer tacitly or not so tacitly said Putin wants Trump to win and leaked the emails so they can together destroy or weaken NATO.
I agree with Russ that it's a wild theory for krauthammer to even be parroting.

[jimnyc]

Yes, if it is Russia then I don't want Russia trying to fix our elections, but then again even if Russia hacked these emails, they didn't write these emails. So it's not quite the same.

And of course there is slim to none evidence that the emails were hacked by Russia - it is just dust being through up by Hillary's team. Wikileaks doesn't even admit they came from Guccifer 2.0, and even if they did there is only vague evidence that he is either Russian or Eastern European, and no evidence that he is part of the government of any of those countries.

That's how I feel. I don't tryst ANYTHING coming from them. Could be one of their own, and they use this as a cover, who knows. If legit, our tech pros better get crackin and make sure we're on the upper end of the tech world.

But as to the content, KARMA, that's what happens when you try to rig the election.

[Gunny]

That's how I feel. I don't tryst ANYTHING coming from them. Could be one of their own, and they use this as a cover, who knows. If legit, our tech pros better get crackin and make sure we're on the upper end of the tech world.

But as to the content, KARMA, that's what happens when you try to rig the election.

That was my next best guess. I just responded before thinking it all the way through. A typical ruse. Let's blame Putin for my crimes. Notice how with the Clintons it's ALWAYS someone else's fault?

[Kathianne]

Yes, if it is Russia then I don't want Russia trying to fix our elections, but then again even if Russia hacked these emails, they didn't write these emails. So it's not quite the same.

And of course there is slim to none evidence that the emails were hacked by Russia - it is just dust being through up by Hillary's team. Wikileaks doesn't even admit they came from Guccifer 2.0, and even if they did there is only vague evidence that he is either Russian or Eastern European, and no evidence that he is part of the government of any of those countries.

It was reported months ago that the DNC email system had been hacked for a long time. This isn't new. About the bolded, he was extradited from Romania.

I want to make something clear, I don't think TRUMP had anything to do with the release. The emails were under wiki control and whomever Assange gave them to.

[Gunny]

It was reported months ago that the DNC email system had been hacked for a long time. This isn't new. About the bolded, he was extradited from Romania.

I want to make something clear, I don't think TRUMP had anything to do with the release. The emails were under wiki control and whomever Assange gave them to.

It's not all that hard to hack a private server. That's why I find Hillary's conduct inexcusable. She's supposed to be brilliant? At lying maybe. Yet she can't follow a simple construct that E-3s do every day?

And anyone wants Ms Leakapedia having the highest office in our nation? I try to stay away from just blanket calling folks stupid, but anyone that votes for her is just stupid.