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    Default Putin ordered email leak so Trump can win?

    Krauthammer seemed to be pedaling a theory yesterday that Putin wants Trump to win so they can work together in destroying or at least weakening NATO.

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    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/2...vention-stage/


    Ed Morrissey <twitterwidget class="twitter-tweet twitter-tweet-rendered" id="twitter-widget-0" data-tweet-id="757588379642896384" style="padding: 0px; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; font-size: 12.16px; line-height: 18.24px; position: static; visibility: visible; display: block; transform: rotate(0deg); max-width: 100%; width: 520px; min-width: 220px; margin-left: 40px !important;">
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    How long until the inevitable "Brazile to gavel in the DNCC" story emerges? Over/under: 1 hour.
    7:48 AM - 25 Jul 2016

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    It only took 48 minutes after this tweet for The Hill to notice that Team Hillary seems to be signaling Wasserman Schultz — frantically:
    Allies of Hillary Clinton think Debbie Wasserman Schultz should remove herself completely from the Democratic National Convention, fearing that even the minor role she is set to play has become too much of a distraction.

    Wasserman Schultz abruptly resigned as chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) on Sunday, amid an outcry over leaked emails that showed the DNC scheming against Sen. Bernie Sanders. In her resignation announcement, Wasserman Schultz said she would stay on as chairwoman through this week’s convention in Philadelphia, delivering opening and closing remarks.

    But even such a limited role is too much at this point, Clinton allies say.

    One ally pointed to the response Wasserman Schultz received at her home-state Florida delegation Monday morning, where she strained to be heardover a chorus of protests and boos. As she spoke, people stood on chairs holding up signs that said “emails,” “No!,” and “Thanks for the ‘help,’ Debbie.” Others repeatedly shouted: “Shame.”

    “It’s causing the distraction no one wanted at the convention,” one ally said.
    Not all of the allies are nameless, either. Here’s former DNC chair and longtime Hillary backerEd Rendell on Morning Joe telling the panel that “it’s wrong” to put Wasserman Schultz on the stage. Pick it up at the 3:40 mark, warning her that it’s “for her own good” to stay away:

    Former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, who was once DNC chairman himself, said Monday he doesn’t see the merit in allowing Debbie Wasserman Schultz to gavel in the party’s convention amid an email scandal that has rocked the hearts of Bernie Sanders supporters.

    “It’s wrong for her and it’s wrong for us,” Rendell said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” about allowing Wasserman Schultz even a minimal role after she submitted her official resignation on Sunday.
    If that’s too subtle, perhaps Team Hillary chief John Podesta might have made it a little more clear on the same show, emphasis mine:
    “It’s best for Hillary Clinton that we have a new chair of the party,” he said.

    Podesta said Wasserman Schultz can still play a role in helping Clinton win the Oval Office.

    “She’ll go out. She’ll campaign where she’s welcome, and we’ll move on from there.”
    Clearly she’s not welcome in Philadelphia … or even in her home state of Florida. While Podesta also said that “she has the right to … open the convention,” he followed it up by saying, “I think that was her choice … I think we’re moving on.” That’s not exactly a rousing endorsement.


    So how much longer will it take before someone on Hillary’s campaign takes that choice away from her? It’s not possible that she’ll actually take the stage so that over 1800 delegates can boo her in front of a national audience, is it? Is it? Because what’s coming is clear to everyone else:

    Chris Riker, a pro-Sanders delegate from Miami’s 24th district waving a Bernie sign and shouting, said all delegates received an email that Wasserman Schultz would be speaking Monday.

    “Honestly it’s their fault that this happened. There is absolutely no reason that a day after rightfully resigning in disgrace with the quote ‘Bernie Sanders will not be president’ leaked from an email that she should be addressing the delegates,” Riker said. “It’s bad for the party, it looks biased and quite frankly it looks tone-deaf.”

    “I will literally boo anytime she’s involved in the convention because she shouldn’t be involved,” Riker added, remarking that the emails confirmed the chairwoman’s “biased conduct” and the state party made a poor decision in having her speak.
    Hillary may be a bad candidate, but no campaign would be this inept. Not even in our fevered dreams. Right?

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    What can possibly be better to followup her email fiasco - with another email fiasco!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Krauthammer seemed to be pedaling a theory yesterday that Putin wants Trump to win so they can work together in destroying or at least weakening NATO.
    While the theory was put out by a Clinton staffer, I put it on the first thread on topic, there's a bit of 'there' there. Manafort was employed to work for Russians, including Putin.

    Trump and Putin already on record regarding their mutual admiration of strong armed tactics or for Trump so far, bravado.

    The timing of leaks was telling, since rumors of them have been around for months.


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    Simple "smoke and mirrors", making an attempt to get the heat off of the DNC ID-Ten-T's


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post
    Simple "smoke and mirrors", making an attempt to get the heat off of the DNC ID-Ten-T's


    Or deniability until the truth 'wills out.' or not.


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    If true, thanks Vlad!!

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    Related. This is how bad the state of politics is right now, indeed if ever the chance of losing the Republic I'd put it right up there with mid-late 1930's and 1911:

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/p...em-convention/

    WikiLeaks Tries to Wreck the DNC

    NOAH ROTHMAN / JULY 24, 2016


    Following a Republican nominating convention that was marred by bizarre scheduling, leaks to Democratic operatives, chaos, and disunion, the bar for relative success at the Democratic convention the following week was set pretty low. With the wounds from the primary process appearing, at least superficially, to have healed, Democrats were set to strike a favorable contrast to the GOP with a largely uneventful coronation and a display of common purpose. That would have been an illusion. As WikiLeaks demonstrated this week with the release of a series of covertly obtained emails from the Democratic National Committee, the appearance of party unity was only ever just that: appearance.

    Of the nearly 20,000 emails released by WikiLeaks, many of them contain delicate communications from seven key DNC employees. The emails contradict Democratic claims that no sensitive information was exposed by the initial hack in Kaine’s selection as Clinton’s vice presidential nominee will not achieve the sorely needed unification of the Democrat Party.

    Kaine has castigated opponents of free trade agreements as “losers,” and strongly supported the war in Iraq.

    Kaine supported the 1994 Clinton crime bill which Hillary Clinton partially blames for the “era of mass incarceration,” voiced strong opposition to gay marriage and casts himself as a “pro-life” politician who supports a ban on partial birth abortion.

    On energy and taxes, Kaine supports offshore drilling and clean coal and signed the complete repeal of the Virginia’s estate tax.
    Despite opposition from organized labor, Kaine supports Virginia’s Right to Work law.
    The criticism doesn’t stop there, with the Republican Party castigating Kaine for being a fan of free trade and against taxes:

    In 2007, Kaine Attacked Opponents Of NAFTA And CAFTA, Saying “This Is Something I Feel Really Passionate About.” “Without identifying him, Kaine cited the views of Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer, who was quoted in the New York Times last year as saying of free-trade agreements: ‘I was a critic of NAFTA, I was a critic of CAFTA and I’ll be a critic of SHAFTA.’ ‘I always laugh when I hear that, but I really think that it’s wrong,’ Kaine said. ‘This is something I feel really passionate about.'” (Scott Lanman, “Virginia’s Kaine Warns Democrats Protectionism Is A ‘Loser,'” Bloomberg, 5/30/07)

    In 2007, Kaine Signed An Estate Tax Repeal. “Rich and poor alike will benefit from changes in Virginia’s tax laws. Gov. Timothy M. Kaine symbolically signed into law yesterday a measure that will remove about 140,000 low-income people from the tax rolls by raising the filing threshold, beginning in the 2008 tax year. And, as of Sunday, the tax on larger estates in Virginia was repealed. The repeal legislation was passed by the General Assembly last year but did not take effect until July 1 this year.” (Tyler Whitley, “Kaine Signs Measure For Low-Income Tax Break,” Richmond Times Dispatch, 7/4/07)
    The GOP’s second piece included comments from The Progressive Change Campaign Committee, Slate’s Nora Caplan-Bricker, The Bernie Delegates Network, and Democracy For America which were all negative of the Kaine pick. It’s pretty obvious the Republican Party is trying to shift focus away from its own issue of disunity and put the spotlight on the fact the Democrats are just as fractured, if not more. Based on how the DNC Rules Committee went, the GOP may have a point. Via the Pro-Sanders website U.S. Uncut:

    Bruce Jacobs, an attorney and Sanders delegate from Miami, Florida, told US Uncut that animosity between Sanders delegates and establishment Democrats was palpable after the superdelegate votes, and that this fight is just the beginning.
    “We just kept going back up and going back up and going back up, and every vote was coming up with Bernie delegates as yes, and Hillary delegates as no, and it was like that every time,” Jacobs said. “Either Hillary Clinton is going to offer an olive branch and we’ll do something that everyone is going to vote for, or their answer is going to be ‘fall in line and be happy about it.’ And that’s not going to work for Bernie’s campaign.”
    Sanders delegates were also apparently removed from the room, before being escorted out of the area entirely.

    ...


    Finally, the source of these email leaks should disturb all Americans of every political stripe. These emails, laundered through WikiLeaks, were likely obtained by Russian intelligence operatives in June. “The networks of presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump were also targeted by Russian spies, as were the computers of some Republican political action committees, U.S. officials said,” the Washington Post reported at the time. It is no coincidence that only a handful of these communications specifically related to Democrats were released on the eve of a Democratic nominating convention. This has the appearance of a foreign power directly interfering in an American election, and that’s not something to take lightly.
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    If anything leaked was illegal, or unethical, or stuff about trying to "steal" the election, rig things... Well, then sucks to be Hillary. Talk about Karma.

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    I'm actually surprised that the DNC wants to ride this pony.

    If the Russkies got this info from a "protected" server, what info have they received from the Hildabeasts virtually unprotected servers?

    If this ever gets asked, I'll bet that the DNC will shut down any further questions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post
    I'm actually surprised that the DNC wants to ride this pony.

    If the Russkies got this info from a "protected" server, what info have they received from the Hildabeasts virtually unprotected servers?

    If this ever gets asked, I'll bet that the DNC will shut down any further questions
    and there's that.

    OTOH, both parties and dirty tricks is nothing new. I for one am sick of both parties, but well I try to hide it.


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    This is like Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary with Monica Lewinsky, and when Hillary confronts him with it, instead of saying "That's not true" he just says "Who told you that?" If the Dems don't argue about the emails but just question where they came from, they are just flat out admitting their guilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    This is like Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary with Monica Lewinsky, and when Hillary confronts him with it, instead of saying "That's not true" he just says "Who told you that?" If the Dems don't argue about the emails but just question where they came from, they are just flat out admitting their guilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    This is like Bill Clinton cheating on Hillary with Monica Lewinsky, and when Hillary confronts him with it, instead of saying "That's not true" he just says "Who told you that?" If the Dems don't argue about the emails but just question where they came from, they are just flat out admitting their guilt.
    I see your point, but do think it's important if Russia is attempting to influence our elections. Doesn't matter if it were for one side or another. In actuality it's likely at some point that they also will release from RNC, equally likely to have found things that will embarrass those elites too.

    For the record, these wikileaks have zero to do with the Clinton email scandal, which wasn't politics, rather a crime that put our security in jeopardy.


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