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    Default 30 July 1945

    remembering the USS Indianapolis and the men who died 71 years ago



    this site has a tool bar that explains the events leading up to and after the disaster. including the court martial of her CO

    http://ussindianapolis.org/

    I do want to see the sequel when it comes out


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    I read the whole history of this incident.

    It was a needless tragedy that was blamed on the skipper, but was
    largely due to the Navy's neglect - not his.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    I read the whole history of this incident.

    It was a needless tragedy that was blamed on the skipper, but was
    largely due to the Navy's neglect - not his.
    No shit. How do you lose one of your frigates? Must take a genius. "Hey, we're missing a boat". Really? How do you lose one?
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    I read the whole history of this incident.

    It was a needless tragedy that was blamed on the skipper, but was
    largely due to the Navy's neglect - not his.
    yeah the USN screwed the pooch on this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    No shit. How do you lose one of your frigates? Must take a genius. "Hey, we're missing a boat". Really? How do you lose one?
    Without going back to the sites, I recall the Indy was under Top Secret comms while transporting the
    atomic bombs.

    After that mission, someone somehow did not lift that comms plan and left her pretty much stranded.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    No shit. How do you lose one of your frigates? Must take a genius. "Hey, we're missing a boat". Really? How do you lose one?
    back in those days the Navy did not report the movements of warships. known as a moverep. in this case the Indy was changing commands and and was not reported over due. nobody had the first damned clue where she was. those guys floated out for 6 days till some officer noticed she was way over due. a search and rescue was ordered. by this time the 800 survivors was dwindled down to 300. there's the cluster fuck

    during the sinking Radio did get off an SOS but before the ID codes were sent power off lights out. the distress was picked up ashore. but no codes no rescue. Jap subs sent fake SOS calls to draw out rescue ships for targets.

    after this the rules of course changed. all ships regardless of type was required to send a moverep. reporting its departure time course speed and ETA. to the command it was leaving and CC to the new command. I sent a shitload of these reports during Nam. as did everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    back in those days the Navy did not report the movements of warships. known as a moverep. in this case the Indy was changing commands and and was not reported over due. nobody had the first damned clue where she was. those guys floated out for 6 days till some officer noticed she was way over due. a search and rescue was ordered. by this time the 800 survivors was dwindled down to 300. there's the cluster fuck

    during the sinking Radio did get off an SOS but before the ID codes were sent power off lights out. the distress was picked up ashore. but no codes no rescue. Jap subs sent fake SOS calls to draw out rescue ships for targets.

    after this the rules of course changed. all ships regardless of type was required to send a moverep. reporting its departure time course speed and ETA. to the command it was leaving and CC to the new command. I sent a shitload of these reports during Nam. as did everyone
    I remember how lousy comm used to be. And I'm NOT aiming that at the people. The comm itself. I'm a grunt. DOn't know much about it except you need 10 batteries for a Prick 77 and 2 might work and you don't want to be the guy humping the radio. That antenna makes you Target Numero Uno.

    I was just being sarcastic. The whole event was a tragedy. Make through all this sh*t only to be eaten by a shark. That's FUBAR.
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    Sadly, most people only know of the Indianapolis because of this:


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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    Sadly, most people only know of the Indianapolis because of this:


    I don't. Quint was in Jaws. right? I remember the historical fact. I never made that connection.
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    Jaws was the first time the public was aware of the Indy. many survivors came forward confirming Quints story


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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    Jaws was the first time the public was aware of the Indy. many survivors came forward confirming Quints story

    I never connected the 2. I saw jaws when I was about 16. I don't like any of the actors so I basically sleep-walked through the movie.

    I learned about the Indy watching the history channel. You know, back when they showed history. Those squids have my utmost respect. Hardcore. Could you imagine some of these wimpydoodles we have now going through that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I never connected the 2. I saw jaws when I was about 16. I don't like any of the actors so I basically sleep-walked through the movie.

    I learned about the Indy watching the history channel. You know, back when they showed history. Those squids have my utmost respect. Hardcore. Could you imagine some of these wimpydoodles we have now going through that?
    there were a lot of Marines that died in this disaster. it was crewed by 1,196 men. seems large even for a heavy cruiser. the reaction to the movie took me by surprise. fear and revenge. people were afraid to get in the bathtub. my god there might be a 2 ton 25 ft great white in there and the real sharks were hunted down and killed by the thousands because of a mechanical shark.

    Richard Dreyfuss, who played Cooper narrated a 2007 movie called Ocean of fear. it straighten out a lot of myth's about sharks



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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    there were a lot of Marines that died in this disaster. it was crewed by 1,196 men. seems large even for a heavy cruiser. the reaction to the movie took me by surprise. fear and revenge. people were afraid to get in the bathtub. my god there might be a 2 ton 25 ft great white in there and the real sharks were hunted down and killed by the thousands because of a mechanical shark.

    Richard Dreyfuss, who played Cooper narrated a 2007 movie called Ocean of fear. it straighten out a lot of myth's about sharks


    I can imagine very well. Lived in Miami at the time. People wouldn't get in the water or the trigger happy folks wanted to go kill sharks.

    AND ... I have seen "Jaws" at the Universal Studio Tour. I would be LMAO. A pair of pliers would work better on that piece of crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I can imagine very well. Lived in Miami at the time. People wouldn't get in the water or the trigger happy folks wanted to go kill sharks.

    AND ... I have seen "Jaws" at the Universal Studio Tour. I would be LMAO. A pair of pliers would work better on that piece of crap.




    if you haven't had enough its running all day this week LMFAO!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post




    if you haven't had enough its running all day this week LMFAO!!
    I was waiting on you to post that, bubba.
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