9/11: Freedom Attacked - Freedom Defended

[El Veto-Voter]

"Our Freedom" Defended (after 9/11)

In solemn memory of the devastation of the 9/11 attacks, of 15 years ago, I thought it proper to start a thread on its effects on the world, society, and especially "Our Freedom".

Immediately after the 911 attacks, President GW Bush said that "our freedom" had been attacked and that "our freedom" would be defended.

In order to defend our freedom he then took it away and locked it up tight (The Patriot Act).

Freedom is not like gold. You can't protect it in a vault.

[Abbey Marie]

With all the incredible changes in the world after 9-11, I knew you would solely focus on the Patriot Act. Not biting.

[Elessar]

"Our Freedom" Defended (after 9/11)

In solemn memory of the devastation of the 9/11 attacks, of 15 years ago, I thought it proper to start a thread on its effects on the world, society, and especially "Our Freedom".

Immediately after the 911 attacks, President GW Bush said that "our freedom" had been attacked and that "our freedom" would be defended.

In order to defend our freedom he then took it away and locked it up tight (The Patriot Act).

Freedom is not like gold. You can't protect it in a vault.

You are really blind. I'll wager you never served in the military, police, fire, or first responders.

Patriot Act is not in a vault. You know nothing you are speaking of.
You'd best learn your audience. I was Active Duty USCG when 9/11/01 went down.
I rushed into work even though I had just stood weekend duty and it was my day off.
I worked with NYPD and NYFD years before. Best friend's brother was almost killed
responding as a NYFD member.

What were you doing that day? Sucking your thumb? Fucking idiot!

[Elessar]

With all the incredible changes in the world after 9-11, I knew you would solely focus on the Patriot Act. Not biting.

Abbey, I love you to death, but FUCK this TROLL. He / it has no idea under the sun
what we had to go through. I apologize for my language to you, but TROLLs like this
are totally clueless.

[Elessar]

I do not know how many folks on this forum have worked through a mass casualty
or a serious situation. I am guessing there are a few, and the liberal whiners would
hide in the basement and toss shit-balls at those of us who have.

I am sure our Vets have because it is part of the job. The sideline experts only know
how to criticize, yet holding no experience.

[Drummond]

"Our Freedom" Defended (after 9/11)

In solemn memory of the devastation of the 9/11 attacks, of 15 years ago, I thought it proper to start a thread on its effects on the world, society, and especially "Our Freedom".

Immediately after the 911 attacks, President GW Bush said that "our freedom" had been attacked and that "our freedom" would be defended.

In order to defend our freedom he then took it away and locked it up tight (The Patriot Act).

Freedom is not like gold. You can't protect it in a vault.

Elessar's right. You are here to troll. More .. you have a contempt for those who've acted to do what must be done to keep your country safe.

Peacetime conditions are not the same as war conditions .. and undoubtedly, the scum responsible or 9/11 waged their version of war against the US on that day. They've been waging their version of it against the West for a long time.

You attack America's defender in GW Bush. You attack what he instituted to help keep your country secure ... powers implemented which, if they never had existed, would've left America's enemies better off than otherwise.

So there is no spirit of a 'solemn memory' involved, not for you, anyway -- just the need to attack those in power who've used that power for your safety and security. Considering the day you've chosen for your own attack, not to mention the contempt you show in making that choice, would I therefore be fair in assessing you as an enemy of America ?

[Elessar]

True words I saw in a Sunday Comic Strip of all places:

B.C. by Mastroinnni and Hart: "Herosim is Courage Despite Consequence"

[Elessar]

Elessar's right. You are here to troll. More .. you have a contempt for those who've acted to do what must be done to keep your country safe.

Peacetime conditions are not the same as war conditions .. and undoubtedly, the scum responsible or 9/11 waged their version of war against the US on that day. They've been waging their version of it against the West for a long time.

You attack America's defender in GW Bush. You attack what he instituted to help keep your country secure ... powers implemented which, if they never had existed, would've left America's enemies better off than otherwise.

So there is no spirit of a 'solemn memory' involved, not for you, anyway -- just the need to attack those in power who've used that power for your safety and security. Considering the day you've chosen for your own attack, not to mention the contempt you show in making that choice, would I therefore be fair in assessing you as an enemy of America ?

He's is a low-life wimp piece of shit. I get tired of telling idiots like him what GWB did to hike up and secure
our nation better, and was an influence to you Brits and the Canadians as well.

All of Europe has been going through terror attacks since I can remember, back in the 60's
and to the present. This punk has not a bit of a clue.

He's just here to Troll his idiocy and should be either ignored or bashed hard continuously.
I don't ignore!

[jimnyc]

I love how some folks talk about all the freedoms that have been taken away from us. Makes me giggle a little at their comical thoughts. And nope, before anyone says it, surely not giggling at any perceived loss of rights, but the lack thereof. Some will cry the same if they had to hear the pledge of allegiance. Those with perception issues can whine and cry together with some Merlot and Ritz for all I care.

[Drummond]

I don't know if anyone's noticed El Veto Voter's avatar in any detail ... but this individual undoubtedly has his agenda ... apparently an anarchic one ? The 'haltvote.com' part of his avatar really does lead to a website of that name (.. so he's advertising it with every post he makes). A troll - without a doubt.

It reminds me a little of Libertarian nonsense.

[Drummond]

He's is a low-life wimp piece of shit. I get tired of telling idiots like him what GWB did to hike up and secure
our nation better, and was an influence to you Brits and the Canadians as well.

All of Europe has been going through terror attacks since I can remember, back in the 60's
and to the present. This punk has not a bit of a clue.

He's just here to Troll his idiocy and should be either ignored or bashed hard continuously.
I don't ignore!

Totally agree.

GWB has been attacked to such an extent by our Left that today, he's widely regarded as an idiot / warmonger / fanatic (take your pick). BUT ... I for one believe that, though his initial insular-looking Presidency was wrong-headed, 9/11 not only taught him a valuable lesson on that score, but that his reaction to it, his whole approach afterwards, simply cannot be faulted. When tested, he came through it superbly. GWB - in my view - is undoubtedly one of the all-time 'greats' amongst all your Presidents.

Europe, the free world, should've stood firm and uncompromisingly behind him throughout the War on Terror that 9/11 caused. The 'you are with us or, if not, you are against us' approach was exactly on the mark. The world's backsliding after Bush's rallying-call shames all those who didn't respond to it, or shunned it.

[fj1200]

"Our Freedom" Defended (after 9/11)

I'll say this, you've certainly violated some folks safe space around here.

[jimnyc]

I'll say this, you've certainly violated some folks safe space around here.

How so? And where? Folks disagreeing means they need a safe space? If so, you need to add up the liberal space from EVERY school included for yourself.

[fj1200]

How so? And where? Folks disagreeing means they need a safe space? If so, you need to add up the liberal space from EVERY school included for yourself.

1 OP and 10 posts mostly attacking him personally with little attempt at discussing his posit. And there are way to many people needing safe spaces out in the world today.

[Perianne]

1 OP and 10 posts mostly attacking him personally with little attempt at discussing his posit. And there are way to many people needing safe spaces out in the world today.

You frequently attack me and @Drummond. But I don't think either of us care.