If all the gay and paedophile clergymen

[lily]

Cocky.....the stories have changed so much, that who knows anymore how old the boys were. The fact that he was the chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, should have told him right then, he was doing something wrong.

[CockySOB]

Cocky.....the stories have changed so much, that who knows anymore how old the boys were. The fact that he was the chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, should have told him right then, he was doing something wrong.

Were criminal charges ever filed?

[GW in Ohio]

We need to distinguish between gay priests (who cares?) and pedophile priests (criminals who should be prosecuted).

I make no distinction between gay priests and heterosexual priests who engage in sexual activity. I couldn't care less about this. The rule that Catholic priests must be celibate is stupid. I won't even say it's outdated because it never made any sense.

The Catholic Church has brought all this on itself with the celibacy rule. Maybe we still would have had pedophile priests without the celibacy thing, I don't know. But those members of the church hierarchy who protected these pedophiles and shifted them from post to post so they could prey on children in a different location are as criminally culpable as the pedophiles themselves.

I'd like to see a few of these archbishops and cardinals marched off in handcuffs for their role in this shameful business.

[Gunny]

We need to distinguish between gay priests (who cares?) and pedophile priests (criminals who should be prosecuted).

I make no distinction between gay priests and heterosexual priests who engage in sexual activity. I couldn't care less about this. The rule that Catholic priests must be celibate is stupid. I won't even say it's outdated because it never made any sense.

The Catholic Church has brought all this on itself with the celibacy rule. Maybe we still would have had pedophile priests without the celibacy thing, I don't know. But those members of the church hierarchy who protected these pedophiles and shifted them from post to post so they could prey on children in a different location are as criminally culpable as the pedophiles themselves.

I'd like to see a few of these archbishops and cardinals marched off in handcuffs for their role in this shameful business.

A priest who preys on children that are the same gender as he is, is a gay pedophile. I can see why the gays have tried to distance themselves as best they could from pedophiles, but a fact is a fact.

The fact that the crime against humanity is pedophilia and pedophiles should be shot dead where found, does not negate the homosexuality of a man sexually abusing a male child.

[GW in Ohio]

Gunny: If I say pedophiles are lower than caterpillar poop and no punishment is too good for them, but gays (who are not pedophiles) are okay guys, would you agree with me?

[Gunny]

Gunny: If I say pedophiles are lower than caterpillar poop and no punishment is too good for them, but gays (who are not pedophiles) are okay guys, would you agree with me?

Nope. What I will say and agree upon is this ....

Pedophiles are aren't even worthy of being considered "caterpillar Poop." They are predators that destroy lives before they get started. That makes them targets, IMO.

Homosexuality is not illegal. What two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own home is none of my business.

I will not agree that homosexuality is either normal or "okay."

However, what I keep seeing is the pro-homo bunch doing their level-best to deny that a male pedophile who preys on male children is a homosexual as well as a pedophile. Again, the severity of the crime of pedophilia does not negate the homosexuality.

[Nuc]

We need to distinguish between gay priests (who cares?) and pedophile priests (criminals who should be prosecuted).

Who cares about gay priests? Maybe the Church cares because it's against their religion.

[lily]

Were criminal charges ever filed?

Do criminal charges have to be filed in order for someone to know they did something wrong? I don't think it will be from lack of trying.......or the fact that Foley knew just how to get away with it, since he's the one who wrote the law.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100402002.html

Although the Justice Department's inquiry is still defined as a preliminary
investigation, the demand to preserve records and other moves by Justice
investigators significantly increase the likelihood that prosecutors will
soon open a full criminal investigation and bring the case before a grand
jury, several officials said.

<snip>

On other fronts, the Justice Department and the FBI are preparing to use
administrative subpoenas to obtain subscriber information for the e-mail
accounts at the heart of the case, according to law enforcement officials.
Authorities said their job will be made more difficult because providers
such as AOL do not keep records of instant messages, the real-time text chat
used in the sexually explicit exchanges Foley is accused of engaging in.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/10/04/Wo...to_face_.shtml
Foley likely to face criminal charges, legal experts say
As investigators look into the former congressman's actions, he could find
himself ensnared by laws he actually helped write.
By CARRIE WEIMAR
Published October 4, 2006



There's little doubt Mark Foley was morally wrong when he used the Internet
to send sexually explicit messages to teenage boys. Now legal experts are
saying he probably violated the law as well.

As facts emerge in the investigation into the former congressman, the
possibility of criminal charges - both state and federal - grows, said
Douglas A. Berman, a law professor at Ohio State University.

"Foley's hasty retreat from the House of Representatives suggests that this
is just the tip of a pretty sordid iceberg," Berman said.

While Internet sex crimes are a relatively new area of the law, the fear of
online predators has sparked a flurry of state and federal laws in the past
few years - some of them written by Foley himself as co-chairman for a
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children caucus.

[CockySOB]

As I said Lily, "Foley did some inappropriate things which I wanted him to resign for, but last I checked nothing he did was illegal. Not that such things matter to the left who want to make mountains out of mole hills."

First item, if his actions were illegal, then he would have been (or might still be) brought up on criminal charges as appropriate.

Second item, his actions were inappropriate IMHO. As such I support him resigning his seat in Congress.

As to the rest of your cited article's speculation: it all sounds rather Nifong-esque. I read a lot of "probably" and "likely" yet nothing of substance to indicate criminal activity. Despicable? Yes. Inappropriate? Hell yes. But unless the authorities have evidence that he committed inappropriate conduct to a minor, there is nothing to charge him with. (BTW, IIRC, one of the pages was 16 when Foley was IM'ing him. If charges are proffered, I expect that it will revolve around Foley's conduct with a minor.)

[lily]

Cocky........as usual I think we're both agreeing, but for different reasons.

[5stringJeff]

Who cares about gay priests? Maybe the Church cares because it's against their religion.

Quit trying to make sense.

[CockySOB]

Cocky........as usual I think we're both agreeing, but for different reasons.

Perhaps. But matters not how a man comes to that place, as long as he makes it there.

BTW, does this mean you're embracing conservatism finally?