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    Default Attorney Controversy is About Politics, Not Law

    Dems continue to waste time, and money, over this made up scandal

    It is all about politics - not a violation of the law


    Attorney Controversy is About Politics, Not Law
    By Kimberley Strassel

    A president removes a U.S. attorney, and Congress demands to see privileged files related to the firing. The president refuses, noting that "these suspensions are my executive acts," and "based upon considerations addressed to me alone." The Senate has a meltdown, arguing it has oversight authority over the removal of administration officials and threatens to censure the attorney general.

    If this sounds familiar, it shouldn't, since it's the story of a long-forgotten battle that President Grover Cleveland fought with Congress in 1885. One reason it is long-forgotten is because nothing happened. The Senate was steamed that Cleveland wouldn't cough up the docs, but it also recognized there were limits on its power. It never did hold any officials in contempt, never did take any judicial action. Instead, it confirmed Cleveland's new choice for the U.S. attorney position.

    What a difference 122 years makes. Democrats are conducting an insincere probe into President Bush's firing of U.S. attorneys, but these days they see no constitutional reason why the White House shouldn't cooperate in their partisan attack. In response to the administration's refusal to respond to subpoenas, the House Judiciary Committee this week voted to issue criminal contempt citations against Chief of Staff Josh Bolten and former White House Counsel Harriet Miers.

    Chairman John Conyers is spinning the line that his party had no choice, but was forced into this by a recalcitrant president who is eviscerating Congress's oversight authority. If you believe that, Mr. Conyers also has a Capitol building to sell you. The contempt citations are, rather, an audacious break with history and Mr. Conyers has far more honorable options. The reason Democrats haven't pursued those more dignified routes is because this is about smearing the president, not proving a principle.

    Let's remember how we got here. Democrats latched on to the firings in hopes of building some case that the White House had engaged in cronyism and cover-up. The Justice Department, in the spirit of cooperation, turned over 8,500 documents and made available a parade of officials for public testimony. Mr. Conyers and his counterpart at Senate Judiciary, Patrick Leahy, found nothing. So they then demanded the White House turn over privileged communications and submit high-ranking officials to public questioning. Mr. Bush invoked executive privilege, and Mr. Conyers went to Defcon contempt.

    This is a constitutional issue, but you don't have to be Robert Bork to get your head around it. The Founders created three separate (but equal) branches of government. The Constitution gave each their own powers, while also supplying checks to prevent the branches from encroaching on each other.

    Congress gave itself the right to issue criminal contempt citations long ago, and bully for it, but there's nothing in legal history to suggest that in this case it has the right to apply that power to the president or his subordinates. It'd be one thing if Mr. Conyers had proved beyond doubt that a crime had been committed. He hasn't. Instead, this is a straightforward battle between Mr. Bush's claim of executive privilege and Congress's claim of oversight. Both sides, in theory, have a legitimate case.

    So the idea that Congress now gets to win this battle by simply declaring the other side criminal is bizarre. Under that twisted logic, Mr. Bush has just as much right to grant himself a similar power and hold Mr. Conyers in criminal contempt for interfering in executive-branch business. This is not, obviously, a very grown-up way of settling constitutional disputes.

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    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art..._is_about.html


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    It's a total waste of time and money. It's the only thing the dems know how to do.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    The laws of this once great Nation are being broken daily by this cadre of criminal thugs, and now Gonzales is gonna pay for it.
    And Meiers.
    And Rove.
    And hopefully this fake-ass president that those of us who truly love America have loathed since he stole the presidency.

    That's why George is pullin this "executive privilege" crap and refusing to answer to the people for whom he fuckin' works.
    He knows he's fucked if we know the truth about his underhanded shit.

    The day he is behind bars, and the rest of this criminal bunch, will be declared a national holiday on par with the 4th of July!
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    Why was it OK for Clinton to lay off all of the Federal Attorneys but it wasn't OK for Bush to let go of 8?

    The broadcast network evening newscasts, which didn't care in 1993 about the Clinton administration's decision to ask for the resignation of all 93 U.S. attorneys, went apoplectic Tuesday night in leading with the "controversy," fed by the media, over the Bush administration for replacing eight U.S. attorneys in late 2006 -- nearly two years after rejecting the idea of following the Clinton policy of replacing all the attorneys. Anchor Charles Gibson promised that ABC would "look at all the angles tonight," but he skipped the Clinton comparison. Gibson teased: "New controversy at the White House after a string of U.S. attorneys is fired under questionable circumstances. There are calls for the Attorney General to resign."

    CBS's Katie Couric declared that "the uproar is growing tonight over the firing of eight federal prosecutors by the Justice Department" and fill-in NBC anchor Campbell Brown teased: "The Attorney General and the firestorm tonight over the controversial dismissal of several federal prosecutors. Was it political punishment?" Brown soon asserted that "it's a story that has been brewing for weeks and it exploded today" -- an explosion fueled by the news media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder Jerusalem View Post
    The laws of this once great Nation are being broken daily by this cadre of criminal thugs, and now Gonzales is gonna pay for it.
    And Meiers.
    And Rove.
    And hopefully this fake-ass president that those of us who truly love America have loathed since he stole the presidency.

    That's why George is pullin this "executive privilege" crap and refusing to answer to the people for whom he fuckin' works.
    He knows he's fucked if we know the truth about his underhanded shit.

    The day he is behind bars, and the rest of this criminal bunch, will be declared a national holiday on par with the 4th of July!


    ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What a goon!

    The new board tool! Everyone look at the monkey as it shits on itself and then plays in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    It's a total waste of time and money. It's the only thing the dems know how to do.
    The libs and liberal media yawned when Clinton fired 96 US attorneys

    Now they all have their shorts in a knot over the 8 Pres Bush fired


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder Jerusalem View Post
    The laws of this once great Nation are being broken daily by this cadre of criminal thugs, and now Gonzales is gonna pay for it.
    And Meiers.
    And Rove.
    And hopefully this fake-ass president that those of us who truly love America have loathed since he stole the presidency.

    That's why George is pullin this "executive privilege" crap and refusing to answer to the people for whom he fuckin' works.
    He knows he's fucked if we know the truth about his underhanded shit.

    The day he is behind bars, and the rest of this criminal bunch, will be declared a national holiday on par with the 4th of July!
    What laws numbnuts?

    So far, not one lib has shown where a single law has been broken

    Maybe you can do something no other lib has been able to do


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Heart View Post
    Why was it OK for Clinton to lay off all of the Federal Attorneys but it wasn't OK for Bush to let go of 8?
    He was a Dem

    The liberal media looked the other way

    Besides, like Pres Bush, the President can fire them at any time - and for any reason


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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What a goon!

    The new board tool! Everyone look at the monkey as it shits on itself and then plays in it.

    Not a goon - just a troll


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    The laws against domestic espionage, the laws against human rights violations, and the Geneva Convention.
    For starters.
    Not to mention countless international laws governing the conduct of warfare.

    This whole admin is criminal, and has been since 2000.

    The new board tool! Everyone look at the monkey as it shits on itself and then plays in it.
    Is that yer new trick, sandwich boy?
    No wonder you smell so bad.

    Please remember to wash yer hands, or does dada do that for you when he comes to change yer shitty nappy?
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    He used to stuff weasels up his ass for twenty bucks a throw.

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    so basically you got nothing to back yourself up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    so basically you got nothing to back yourself up.
    Becareful he will start talking about your family then call you Babe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    so basically you got nothing to back yourself up.
    Do you actually want to discuss, or did you come to get some from the Spyder?

    If you'd like to debate the issue, by all means.
    If yer just lookin fer an asswhuppin, I've kinda got my plate full right now.
    Check back tomorrow.

    Becareful he will start talking about your family then call you Babe.
    Are you pissed because I referred to you as a woman, or as a cinematic pig?
    A man once said to me "you can get used to anything when money is involved".

    He used to stuff weasels up his ass for twenty bucks a throw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder Jerusalem View Post
    Do you actually want to discuss, or did you come to get some from the Spyder?

    If you'd like to debate the issue, by all means.
    If yer just lookin fer an asswhuppin, I've kinda got my plate full right now.
    Check back tomorrow.


    Are you pissed because I referred to you as a woman, or as a cinematic pig?
    There is nothing to debate. The President acted within his clearly mandated Constitutional power to dismiss whomever he wants and Democrats, having nothing else on him, are trying to turn it into a non-existant scandal. What is there to debate on the subject? The Democrats arent even claiming that there was anything illegal about it.

    Anyone who thinks the President is somehow going to fall or get impeached by doing his job is just a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    It's a total waste of time and money. It's the only thing the dems know how to do.
    And they are good at both, wasting time and money, except they arn't happy unless they are wasting a shitload of money.

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