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    Now even some outlets in the liberal media are asking the same question I have been asking for sometime

    What global warming?


    What global warming? West Palm shows few signs of rising temperatures
    By Mark Hollis | Tallahassee Bureau
    July 25, 2007

    TALLAHASSEE A study of new government climate data finds that temperatures across Florida are on the rise, but some places such as West Palm Beach are experiencing fewer signs of warmer-than-normal weather.

    Those findings, included in a report released Tuesday by a Tallahassee-based environmental advocacy group that studied climate statistics, presents a mixed picture for parts of South Florida.

    While ocean breezes, cloudy days and certain weather patterns can keep local temperatures from spiking, scientists say South Floridians still have at least one major reason to be concerned about global warming: The possible rise of sea level leading to the loss of local beaches.

    "Moving to West Palm Beach to a condo on the beach may be comfortable from a temperature and lifestyle standpoint, but it may not be your best bet [because of sea-level rise]," said Jeff Chanton, a geologist and oceanographer at Florida State University.

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    List of Global Warming Skeptics Grows, Media Couldn’t Care Less
    By Noel Sheppard | May 16, 2007 - 13:30 ET
    While global warming alarmists like soon-to-be-Dr. Al Gore and his band of not so merry sycophants continue talking about a scientific consensus concerning man’s role in “climate change,” the list of scientists that have grown skeptical of this nexus continues to grow.

    Unfortunately, a media obsessed with advancing hysteria on the subject refuse to acknowledge the existence of such folks as they continue to pound the table about the imminent doom to the planet.

    With that in mind, Sen. James Inhofe’s office (R-Oklahoma) is preparing a “detailed and comprehensive sampling of scientists who have only recently spoken out against climate hysteria [that] will be forthcoming in a soon to be released U.S. Senate report.”

    Inhofe’s communications director, Marc Morano, published a few of these names, as well as their backgrounds and conclusions, at Inhofe’s EPW Press Blog Tuesday:

    Geophysicist Dr. Claude Allegre, a top geophysicist and French Socialist who has authored more than 100 scientific articles and written 11 books and received numerous scientific awards including the Goldschmidt Medal from the Geochemical Society of the United States, converted from climate alarmist to skeptic in 2006.
    Geologist Bruno Wiskel of the University of Alberta recently reversed his view of man-made climate change and instead became a global warming skeptic.
    Astrophysicist Dr. Nir Shaviv, one of Israel's top young award winning scientists, recanted his belief that manmade emissions were driving climate change.
    Mathematician & engineer Dr. David Evans, who did carbon accounting for the Australian Government, recently detailed his conversion to a skeptic.
    Climate researcher Dr. Tad Murty, former Senior Research Scientist for Fisheries and Oceans in Canada, also reversed himself from believer in man-made climate change to a skeptic.
    Botanist Dr. David Bellamy, a famed UK environmental campaigner, former lecturer at Durham University and host of a popular UK TV series on wildlife, recently converted into a skeptic after reviewing the science and now calls global warming fears "poppycock."
    Climate scientist Dr. Chris de Freitas of The University of Auckland, N.Z., also converted from a believer in man-made global warming to a skeptic.
    Meteorologist Dr. Reid Bryson, the founding chairman of the Department of Meteorology at University of Wisconsin (now the Department of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences, was pivotal in promoting the coming ice age scare of the 1970’s ( See Time Magazine’s 1974 article “Another Ice Age” citing Bryson: & see Newsweek’s 1975 article “The Cooling World” citing Bryson) has now converted into a leading global warming skeptic.
    Global warming author and economist Hans H.J. Labohm started out as a man-made global warming believer but he later switched his view after conducting climate research.
    Paleoclimatologist Tim Patterson, of Carlton University in Ottawa converted from believer in C02 driving the climate change to a skeptic.
    Physicist Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, chairman of the Central Laboratory for the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Radiological Protection in Warsaw, took a scientific journey from a believer of man-made climate change in the form of global cooling in the 1970’s all the way to converting to a skeptic of current predictions of catastrophic man-made global warming.
    Paleoclimatologist Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor of the Department of Earth Sciences at University of Ottawa, reversed his views on man-made climate change after further examining the evidence.
    Environmental geochemist Dr. Jan Veizer, professor emeritus of University of Ottawa, converted from believer to skeptic after conducting scientific studies of climate history.
    Like many of you, I look forward to the full report being prepared by Sen. Inhofe’s office, and can’t way to see Charlie Gibson, Brian Williams, and Katie Couric begin their respective evening new broadcasts with these revelations.

    Of course, I am not holding my breath.
    http://newsbusters.org/node/12793


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    Greenland Ice Find Debunks Al Gore’s Global Warming Theories
    By Noel Sheppard | July 7, 2007 - 10:19 ET
    Just in time for worldwide concerts to draw attention to the planet’s imminent doom at the hands of anthropogenic global warming, a new find in Greenland suggests that much of the hysteria in Al Gore’s schlockumentary “An Inconvenient Truth” has absolutely no basis in scientific fact.

    Even though this study will likely get little to no attention from a media in full fawn mode over Gore and his Live Earth concerts, the findings throw a huge monkey wrench into alarmist warnings of climate-related devastation to the planet and species offered as reasons for developed nations to radically change behavior.

    As marvelously reported by the Boston Globe Friday (h/t Benny Peiser, emphasis added throughout):

    An international team of scientists, drilling deep into the ice layers of Greenland, has found DNA from ancient spiders and trees, evidence that suggests the frozen shield covering the immense island survived the earth's last period of global warming.

    The findings, published today in the journal Science, indicate Greenland's ice may be less susceptible to the massive meltdown predicted by computer models of climate change, the article's main author said in an interview.

    "If our data is correct, and I believe it is, then this means the southern Greenland ice cap is more stable than previously thought," said Eske Willerslev, research leader and professor of evolutionary biology at the University of Copenhagen. "This may have implications for how the ice sheets respond to global warming. They may withstand rising temperatures."


    How can that be? After all, soon-to-be-Dr. Al Gore – who has had absolutely no training in the relevant areas of science despite the media belief that he is indeed the foremost expert on the subject – says Greenland is going to thaw in the near future with devastating repercussions. Surely he can’t be wrong:

    A painstaking analysis of surviving genetic fragments locked in the ice of southern Greenland shows that somewhere between 450,000 and 800,000 years ago, the world's largest island had a climate much like that of Northern New England, the researchers said. Butterflies fluttered over lush meadows interspersed with stands of pine, spruce, and alder.

    Greenland really was green, before Ice Age glaciers enshrouded vast swaths of the Northern Hemisphere.


    Wait. Isn’t the debate over and the science settled on this issue? It appears not:

    More controversially -- and as an example of how research in one realm of science can unexpectedly affect assumptions in another -- the discovery of microscopic bits of organic matter retrieved from ice 1.2 miles beneath the surface indicates that the ice fields of southern Greenland may be more resilient to rising global temperatures than has been forecast. The DNA could have been preserved only if the ice layers remained largely intact.

    A scenario often raised by global warming specialists is that Greenland's ice trove will turn liquid in the rising temperatures of coming decades, with hundreds of trillions of gallons of water spilling into the Atlantic. This could cause ocean levels worldwide to rise anywhere from 3 to 20 feet, according to computer projections -- bad news for seaport cities like Boston.

    But the discovery of organic matter in ice dating from half-a-million years ago offers evidence that the Greenland ice shield remained frozen even during the earth's last "interglacial period" -- some 120,000 years ago -- when average temperatures were 9 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than they are now. That's slightly higher than the average temperatures foreseen by most scientists for the end of this century, although some environmentalists warn it might get even hotter.


    Incredible. And, as many scientists have been claiming regardless of such falling on deaf press ears, this indicates just how nonsensical and worthless climate models proclaiming imminent planetary doom are:

    Researchers from the Danish-led team said the unanticipated findings appear to fly in the face of prevailing scientific views about the likely fate of Greenland's thickly-layered ice, although Willerslev stressed that the findings do not contradict the basic premise that the earth's temperature is rising to worrisome levels, with gases emitted by industry, cars, and other human activity playing a big role.

    "But it suggests a problem with the [computer] models" that predict melting ice from Greenland could drown cities and destroy civilizations, according to Willerslev.


    Think this will be headline news during Live Earth weekend?

    No. Neither do I. Regardless, it certainly makes watching the concerts more comical
    http://newsbusters.org/node/13948


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    Floods show global warming is here
    By Charles Clover, Environment Editor
    Last Updated: 12:01am BST 28/07/2007Page 1 of 3

    As Britain counts the costs of the worst floods in 200 years, Charles Clover argues the signs of global warming are now impossible to ignore

    Big Ben, the London Eye and Westminster Abbey awash. The submerged streets of London indistinguishable from the Thames. Admittedly, the above image, arresting as it is, is the stuff of cinematic trickery. But could it happen? One day, if we are not careful, it just might.

    Of course, nowhere in the country are flood defences built to a higher standard than in London, because of the value, strategic and otherwise, of what lies behind them, so Trafalgar Square is unlikely ever to be as vulnerable as Tewkesbury, even though most of the capital is on a flood plain.

    But if the floods of this week have taught us anything, it is that few events can be more extraordinary than the weather - and there is plenty of reason to think long and hard about the extraordinary weather we have recently been experiencing.

    It was on Monday last week, July 16, that Met Office forecasters studying computer models of what the weather over the Atlantic might have in store for us began to believe that this summer's second burst of exceptional rain might be about to strike somewhere in England and Wales, bringing with it severe flooding.

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    Even though the Met Office did not have satellite images of the clouds forming until Thursday, by Wednesday night its computers had predicted accurately that severe weather would hit the south-west Midlands last Friday. By Thursday they knew we would be getting at least 4in (100mm) of rain.

    The Environment Agency flood-warning centre, which works with the Met Office, went into action and from late Thursday duly began delivering its automated alerts to people in high-risk areas who had signed up for them. Only 40 per cent of those living in high-risk flood areas had, but 123,000 people were successfully warned.

    By Friday morning, the agency's press office had arranged for Lady Young, its chief executive, to go on radio and television to make it absolutely clear that severe rainfall and flooding was expected in those areas later in the day.

    But it was only at 2pm on Friday that the order was given to take the large temporary flood barriers that protect properties on the banks of the River Severn out of their store in Kidderminster and to take them north to Upton upon Severn.

    They never made it. Even though the agency vehicles carrying them had police outriders as they raced up the M5, they were caught in a tailback. A flash flood had preceded them and the carriageway was blocked.

    By the next morning the 30 houses that the barriers would have protected were awash. They would almost certainly have been over-topped anyway, given the force of the floodwater that, by the end of the weekend, had engulfed 10,000 homes and caused the loss of four lives.

    It left insured losses worth £3 billion and uninsured losses to farmers and landowners likely to exceed those during the foot-and-mouth epidemic.

    We now know that the storm of last Friday was the worst summer flood since the early 19th century. For the counties affected it was as bad as the spring floods of 1947.

    But it was more exceptional than that because it happened in the summer. Meteorologists say that in the short term the rain was caused by the jet stream, the ribbon of very strong winds in the upper atmosphere that largely determines where weather systems will bring rain across western Europe.

    For much of the summer the jet stream has been further south and stronger than in a typical summer.

    This has resulted in many depressions crossing southern and central parts of Britain, interacting with very warm and moist air to the south and generating exceptionally heavy rain storms, while other parts of Europe are experiencing drought.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...128.xml&page=1


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    Cold Snap in Peru Kills 70 Children, Media Couldn’t Care Less
    By Noel Sheppard | July 28, 2007 - 16:33 ET

    By now, you've likely heard about the floods in England, and how the media believe them to be caused by global warming.

    However, have you heard about the cold snap in Peru that has already killed 70 children?

    You haven't? Well, how could you? After all, no American media outlet has felt it to be newsworthy.

    Yet, the following was reported by the BBC on Wednesday, and, as amazing as it might seem, was republished by Press TV Iran's website Thursday (h/t NB reader Rolf Rothermel):

    At least 70 children have died during a spell of freezing weather in the Andean regions of Peru, officials have said.

    The children, all under five years old, died of pneumonia and other respiratory illnesses over the past three months.

    They lived in rural areas at high altitude, where temperatures in some cases are reported to have plummeted to as low as -20C (-4F).

    Sadly, this situation is expected to get worse before it gets any better:

    Forecasters in Peru are predicting the cold spell will continue until September.

    [...]

    Many adults have also died during the harsh winter, and thousands of people are suffering from pneumonia and other respiratory infections.

    This is one of the worst cold-related disasters in Peru's history. Yet, Google news and LexisNexis searches found no American media covering this story.

    Think they'd be so disinterested if there was a heat-related disaster killing children somewhere?

    No. I don't either.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...dn-t-care-less


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    I guess the only "real" conservative media outlets are Fox and the New York Post.
    Who reads the news to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    I guess the only "real" conservative media outlets are Fox and the New York Post.
    Who reads the news to you?
    Still doing the liberal two step - unable to debate the facts; and right into the personal attacks and insults

    Next you will say Al Gore is doing his part to conserve energy


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    unable to debate the facts; and right into the personal attacks and insults
    Said the pot to the kettle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Now even some outlets in the liberal media are asking the same question I have been asking for sometime

    What global warming?


    What global warming? West Palm shows few signs of rising temperatures
    By Mark Hollis | Tallahassee Bureau
    July 25, 2007

    TALLAHASSEE A study of new government climate data finds that temperatures across Florida are on the rise, but some places such as West Palm Beach are experiencing fewer signs of warmer-than-normal weather.

    Those findings, included in a report released Tuesday by a Tallahassee-based environmental advocacy group that studied climate statistics, presents a mixed picture for parts of South Florida.

    While ocean breezes, cloudy days and certain weather patterns can keep local temperatures from spiking, scientists say South Floridians still have at least one major reason to be concerned about global warming: The possible rise of sea level leading to the loss of local beaches.

    "Moving to West Palm Beach to a condo on the beach may be comfortable from a temperature and lifestyle standpoint, but it may not be your best bet [because of sea-level rise]," said Jeff Chanton, a geologist and oceanographer at Florida State University.

    for the complete article
    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...0,749955.story
    Global Warming is a scam to scare people into voting for Democrat's that can supposedly protect us.

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    Care to prove that?

    Or is it just more republifascist conservatard shitspew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder Jerusalem View Post
    Care to prove that?

    Or is it just more republifascist conservatard shitspew?
    It's been posted on here by several people several times, quit being lazy anf look it up yourself.

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    Pardon me, but I'm a bit new.

    Would you be so kind as to be a good hostess and provide that info when you bring it up?
    Thanks ever so much, sweetie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    Global Warming is a scam to scare people into voting for Democrat's that can supposedly protect us.
    It is also an attack on capitalism by the left


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    USAToday Reports More Bluster on Hurricanes, Global Warming
    By Ken Shepherd | July 30, 2007 - 02:00 ET
    The 1800s wrought mass industrialization and technological marvels. Weather satellites, obviously, were not one of them.

    But that point didn't bear repeating until deep in Dan Vergano's July 30 article, "Study links more hurricanes, climate change."

    Reads the lede:

    The number of hurricanes that strike each year has more than doubled over the past century, an increase tied to global warming, according to a study released Sunday.

    It took to paragraph nine of the 13-paragraph story to bring around a dissenting opinion:

    The new study drew criticism from experts who dispute the merits of combining data from the late 19th and early 20th centuries, when hurricane-tracking satellites didn't exist, with statistics gleaned from more modern technology.

    "Looking for trends in noisy count data is fraught with problems," says researcher James Elsner of Florida State University in Tallahassee. "I agree with the message, but cannot recommend the science."

    Of course for the liberal media, the message is more important than the science. For example, the fact that at least one 2007 hurricane forecast has been downgraded went unmentioned by Vergano, while 2006's relative quiet was dismissed as one that would have been considered "stormy" in 1906.

    While it was appropriate and commendable for Vergano to find critics of the new study, it would have served the reader better for him to note the controversy in the lede and then to alternate the following grafs between supporters and detractors of the study's conclusions.


    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-she...global-warming


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    Quote Originally Posted by nevadamedic View Post
    Global Warming is a scam to scare people into voting for Democrat's that can supposedly protect us.
    Will libs blame Pres Bush for Mars suffering from global warming?

    Who the hell sent the SUV's to Mars?


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