Simple Question

[Balu]

It's not a controversy when the reasons for the Electoral College are understood.

Our Founding Fathers were very wise men.

I learned the History of your country in our secondary school (in the USSR) and are aware why this system was reasonable THAT time. But... time passes and forces to change the legislation to correspond to current demands.

[NightTrain]

I learned the History of your country in our secondary school (in the USSR) and are aware why this system was reasonable THAT time. But... time passes and forces to change the legislation to correspond to current demands.

Well, it's actually more important than ever.

Here's a few maps to illustrate what I mean :

First, a map of the 2016 election - Red is Republican voters, Blue is Democrat voters :



Then here is a map of the US murder rate :



Then here is a map of foodstamp recipients :



Then here is a map of unemployment :



Some of these maps are older and I can't find newer ones, but it gives you a general idea of who is voting Democrat.

These population centers could easily dictate policy to the rest of the country if not for the Electoral College.

We would quickly become another Venezuela or Greece if California and a couple of other high-density States decided they wanted more welfare and free everything. And their politicians who are elected in these high-density areas cater to handing out as many free rides as possible in order to get their vote.

Simply put, the Electoral College prevents mob rule over the rest of the country.

[Balu]

But what is encouraging so the diagram below.

Dow Jones

http://index.minfin.com.ua/stock/?dji

[NightTrain]

But what is encouraging so the diagram below.

Dow Jones

http://index.minfin.com.ua/stock/?dji

Yes, the Stock Market is doing extremely well!

Things look rosy everywhere.

[Balu]

Yes, the Stock Market is doing extremely well!

Things look rosy everywhere.

I really like this indicator.

[Kathianne]

I learned the History of your country in our secondary school (in the USSR) and are aware why this system was reasonable THAT time. But... time passes and forces to change the legislation to correspond to current demands.

No, it is likely more important today than at any time. This election certainly had populism and nationalism introduced, while the electorate was split nearly in half. With that being the case, it's more important than ever that all regions are given a chance to be heard, the electoral college to some degree balances out the differences between densely populated areas with the rural and less populated states.

It prevents 'regions' from dominating the system, while still keeping representation pretty close to equal.

Then there are the problems that can come from one centralized voting system, we have 50+. That makes wholesale fraud darn near impossible.

[revelarts]

Concerning the maps.
Is it possible that all those map also match population density.
I just look at one and it's pretty closely aligned.

more people more food stamps
more people more murders
Could that be part of the reason the numbers over lap? is it possible?

Also here's a map of the people income Low and HIGH in the U.S.


so I'm not so sure that the maps say exactly what we might think they say.

Also when people bring up welfare we have to remember
"According to 2013 data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American."..

[NightTrain]

Of course it shows population density, Rev... that's the whole point.

It shows what those population centers have going and what their motivations are.

[aboutime]

The smart thing to do in this case, if these people keep rioting, destroying property, and hurting, or killing people who disagree with them is: The new Trump administration, and the NEW Justice Department, via the Congress...SHOULD stop all of the Federal Funding ANY OF THEM, who have been Identified.

No monthly checks, no more freebies, disqualification for WELFARE, MEDICARE, and any of the Remaining OBAMACARE perks they obviously have no idea they are getting.

Fight Fire With Fire. They want to complain about the System. VOID them from the system.

[Kathianne]

Take a look at the 'protesters,' they are not the downtrodden youths seen after shootings. Nope, for the most part these are college aged kids trying to rock back to the 60's. So far they seem to be limiting themselves to burning flags and smashing car windows.

[aboutime]

Take a look at the 'protesters,' they are not the downtrodden youths seen after shootings. Nope, for the most part these are college aged kids trying to rock back to the 60's. So far they seem to be limiting themselves to burning flags and smashing car windows.

Kathianne. I'm really tired of looking at the 'protesters'. I remember a time back in the sixties, and seventies, when I was in uniform during NAM, and those same protester's parents were doing the same things. And yes....They have the right to protest all they want. But they DO NOT have the right to believe they are IMMUNE from our Laws.

58,000 Americans, who have their names on a black wall in Washington, did not die just to allow the DUMBEST, IGNORANT, UNEDUCATED Americans the right to Ignore our CONSTITUTION, or the History of our Nation.

[gabosaurus]

The United States is built on the right to freely protest. If aboutime was alive at the time of the American Revolution, I am guessing that he would consider our Founding Fathers as disgusting and ignorant legal scofflaws who dared to oppose the rules set down by the British Crown.

[aboutime]

The United States is built on the right to freely protest. If aboutime was alive at the time of the American Revolution, I am guessing that he would consider our Founding Fathers as disgusting and ignorant legal scofflaws who dared to oppose the rules set down by the British Crown.

gabby. Once again. Your comprehension levels have reached a new low. If you bothered to read what I said. I agreed that "AMERICANS have the right to protest all they want". So, you pull another Liberal, Hillary, DNC switch to appease your foul mind that some of us are really dumber than you. BUT YOU LOST.

[OCA]

Kathianne. I'm really tired of looking at the 'protesters'. I remember a time back in the sixties, and seventies, when I was in uniform during NAM, and those same protester's parents were doing the same things. And yes....They have the right to protest all they want. But they DO NOT have the right to believe they are IMMUNE from our Laws.

58,000 Americans, who have their names on a black wall in Washington, did not die just to allow the DUMBEST, IGNORANT, UNEDUCATED Americans the right to Ignore our CONSTITUTION, or the History of our Nation.

Honest question.........what actually did they die for? Certainly American freedom and democracy wasn't on the line.

[aboutime]

Honest question.........what actually did they die for? Certainly American freedom and democracy wasn't on the line.

If you are dumb enough to find a need to ask that question. There is nothing you need to hear here. You seem to fail to remember. Those who died, in the uniform of our nation, while fighting an enemy....were doing their duty to this country. They followed orders from the President, and Congress. So your reasoning is typically ignorant, if you feel so superior to others by asking the question. I heard millions of demonstrators in the 60's, and 70's ask the same thing. But not you, or any of them ever bothered to Leave this nation...as you should have because of your IGNORANCE.