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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Polls in states he won were way off. Ohio Penn Florida Michigan Wisconsin and more.

    Popular vote means nothing. And neither do national polls.
    This election will be studied and contemplated for centuries. Assuming we have centuries.
    Why are we talking about election polls? People still like BO, not sure why but they do. The approval rating poll is mostly a "how's the country going poll" IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Why are we talking about election polls? People still like BO, not sure why but they do. The approval rating poll is mostly a "how's the country going poll" IMO.
    Krauthammer opinion:.

    They like him but not his policies. There's a disconnect there. Every time his policies/legacy are on the ballot, but he isn't, he gets crushed.

    Another disconnect:. Obama's approval rating: 54%. Country going in the wrong direction: 75%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Krauthammer opinion:.

    They like him but not his policies. There's a disconnect there. Every time his policies/legacy are on the ballot, but he isn't, he gets crushed.

    Another disconnect:. Obama's approval rating: 54%. Country going in the wrong direction: 75%
    As I said, I don't know why. Those two numbers aren't necessarily the same people identifying the same problem though.

    Wasn't Krauthammer persona non grata around here recently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    As I said, I don't know why. Those two numbers aren't necessarily the same people identifying the same problem though.

    Wasn't Krauthammer persona non grata around here recently?
    Not by me. I enjoy his opinion pieces, even though he was Never Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Wasn't Krauthammer persona non grata around here recently?
    Link? I know Kath posted from him, as did I - even though I know he was predicting and wanting a Trump loss mostly. I honestly didn't see others talking him down. Do you recall who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Not by me. I enjoy his opinion pieces, even though he was Never Trump.
    Me too. I thought he'd been outed as an establishment hack by some. Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Link? I know Kath posted from him, as did I - even though I know he was predicting and wanting a Trump loss mostly. I honestly didn't see others talking him down. Do you recall who?
    The alt-righters IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    The alt-righters IIRC.
    Who are they? Sounds like what you just said, "some around here". WHO? Link? And if "alt righters" are to be labeled racists by others, even more reason why such clarifications are needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Link? I know Kath posted from him, as did I - even though I know he was predicting and wanting a Trump loss mostly. I honestly didn't see others talking him down. Do you recall who?
    I do believe it was Perianne, she wasn't content with just dismissing all of National Review.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I do believe it was Perianne, she wasn't content with just dismissing all of National Review.
    That's VERY possible. I just know that while he disappointed me, I've always liked him and his writing. Would be odd if that's all he remembers, and then would indirectly make it sound as if many, or the board, made him sorta not welcome around here. Or if treated at such, should be easy to link to. I know if someone did such, and then flip flopped, I would make sure I have a linky handy to toss in the face!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Who are they? Sounds like what you just said, "some around here". WHO? Link? And if "alt righters" are to be labeled racists by others, even more reason why such clarifications are needed.
    It wasn't by BD so any point I had was moot.

    There's a "Farthammer" thread and he was referred to as "Kraut-hammer." I only found a couple of references with a quick search. It was less than I remembered, please accept my heart felt apologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It wasn't by BD so any point I had was moot.

    There's a "Farthammer" thread and he was referred to as "Kraut-hammer."
    I'm half German. I need to go to my safe space now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It wasn't by BD so any point I had was moot.

    There's a "Farthammer" thread and he was referred to as "Kraut-hammer." I only found a couple of references with a quick search. It was less than I remembered, please accept my heart felt apologies.
    That sounds like Perianne

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I'm half German. I need to go to my safe space now.
    I'll get my safety pin ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    It wasn't by BD so any point I had was moot.

    There's a "Farthammer" thread and he was referred to as "Kraut-hammer." I only found a couple of references with a quick search. It was less than I remembered, please accept my heart felt apologies.
    Funny you said that. Went down for a coffee refill and remembered the "fart" lame stuff. Don't recall the second one though, but wouldn't be surprising if from the same person. At any rate, it's not like his stories are condemned by many here.

    As for your sarcasm - yeah - kinda sucks when called on crap you post, doesn't it? Don't get pissy because you wrote someone and another asked for proof. And the proof proves why I asked.
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