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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    I'll say the same - back it up. Or at least define it. Some like to "define" things and think they know better.

    Throughout the majority since that term came out, most will claim it's racism. Last I saw that here was from Noir. And you?
    Jesus it's an alt right board 100% All one has to do is some casual reading to come to that conclusion........you would think you'd be proud and own it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Jesus it's an alt right board 100% All one has to do is some casual reading to come to that conclusion........you would think you'd be proud and own it.
    No it's not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Dude, I'm lame, but not THAT lame. We have liquor store within walking distance over there! I'll have plain old Corona's, thank you. And of course some Jager bombs!!
    Or MD 20/20......lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    No it's not.
    How is it not? Many members tip toe between veiled references of all the way to out and out bigotry and everything in between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    How is it not? Many members tip toe between veiled references of all the way to out and out bigotry and everything in between.
    Because I'm not, Kathianne is not... It's also a very tough thing to define. We had a thread on it not so long ago where it seemed to be championed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Because I'm not, Kathianne is not... It's also a very tough thing to define. We had a thread on it not so long ago where it seemed to be championed.
    I just saw your 'status' by your avatar. Made me laugh!


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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Jesus it's an alt right board 100% All one has to do is some casual reading to come to that conclusion........you would think you'd be proud and own it.
    Again, define "alt right".
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Because I'm not, Kathianne is not... It's also a very tough thing to define. We had a thread on it not so long ago where it seemed to be championed.
    Hence the 9/10........maybe 3/4 would be more believable to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Hence the 9/10........maybe 3/4 would be more believable to you?
    As pointed out already, it needs to be defined.
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    If going by Wiki... I don't think really anyone at all fits into this. Some may want to say that folks reject conservatism, but that's completely false. Some folks here, for example, are willing to bend on some stances, but to say that we now reject conservatism would be silly. If folks think those of us who supported Trump in this group, so be it. I have bolded the ONLY correct thing in there. And most conservatives have had an issue with illegal immigration, and many many over the past 16 years about political correctness.

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    The alt-right is a loose group of people with far right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism in the United States.[1][2] The writings of the group are largely Internet-based and are found on websites such as 4chan and 8chan, where anonymous members create and use Internet memes to express themselves.[3][4][5] It is difficult to tell how much of what people write is serious, and how much is intended to provoke outrage.[6][7] Members of the alt-right use social media like Twitter and Breitbart News to convey their message.

    Generally alt-right postings support Republican President-elect Donald Trump,[10] and oppose immigration, multiculturalism and political correctness.[2][11][12]

    The alt-right has no formal ideology, although various sources have stated that white nationalism is fundamental.[1][2][7] It has also been associated with white supremacism,[3][13][14] Islamophobia,[15][16][17][18][19] antifeminism,[1][12] homophobia,[20][21][22] antisemitism,[1][2][4] ethno-nationalism,[23] right-wing populism,[7] nativism,[24] traditionalism,[25] and the neoreactionary movement.[3][25][26] 'Alt-right' is a recently coined umbrella term, with no clear criteria of membership yet agreed upon.[27] The movement has been associated with multiple ideologies from American nationalism, neo-monarchists to men's rights advocates and people who oppose mainstream conservatism.[28][29]
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    There's a few folks here I wonder about, one that is gone really left no doubt. Most are not racists or anti-most people groups. Some though seem to want to prove they are so 'non-PC' they occasionally come off as incivil. I for one wish people would consider the differences.

    I've said before, I don't think Trump is a racist or any other type of 'anti-anything.'

    He comports himself however as a bully, certainly comes off as a misogynist, and is rude. These behaviors seem to attract some people, including racists. To equate all supporters of Trump with racists in general is about as correct as the differences between being non-PC and incivil. It's more than a degree, but hard to put one's finger on. OTOH, there are racists that support him, as evidence by the 'endorsement' of the KKK. That Trump didn't denounce that in timely manner, certainly turned many folks off to him, but also attracted others, including those sick of PC.

    The election is over, but one thing I've noticed, since about 2 weeks before the election, Trump stopped acting like the above. He was gracious in acceptance speech. He was gracious speaking after meeting with Obama. When interviewed by Stahl for 60 minutes, he was filmed telling anyone treating others badly in his name to STOP. CBS waited to the program to air that though they had it taped days before. Why? They aired plenty of clips to promote the program.

    The only one from the left that has told their 'backers' to stop is Bernie. Tells one something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Again, define "alt right".
    A group of people with far right beliefs who reject mainstream conservatism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Jesus it's an alt right board 100% All one has to do is some casual reading to come to that conclusion........you would think you'd be proud and own it.
    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    A group of people with far right beliefs who reject mainstream conservatism.
    So you used 100%. You say we ALL reject mainstream conservatism.

    Be specific, name the major conservative values that we ALL have rejected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    If going by Wiki... I don't think really anyone at all fits into this. Some may want to say that folks reject conservatism, but that's completely false. Some folks here, for example, are willing to bend on some stances, but to say that we now reject conservatism would be silly. If folks think those of us who supported Trump in this group, so be it. I have bolded the ONLY correct thing in there. And most conservatives have had an issue with illegal immigration, and many many over the past 16 years about political correctness.

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    Generally alt-right postings support Republican President-elect Donald Trump,[10] and oppose immigration, multiculturalism and political correctness.[2][11][12]

    The alt-right has no formal ideology, although various sources have stated that white nationalism is fundamental.[1][2][7] It has also been associated with white supremacism,[3][13][14] Islamophobia,[15][16][17][18][19] antifeminism,[1][12] homophobia,[20][21][22] antisemitism,[1][2][4] ethno-nationalism,[23] right-wing populism,[7] nativism,[24] traditionalism,[25] and the neoreactionary movement.[3][25][26] 'Alt-right' is a recently coined umbrella term, with no clear criteria of membership yet agreed upon.[27] The movement has been associated with multiple ideologies from American nationalism, neo-monarchists to men's rights advocates and people who oppose mainstream conservatism.[28][29]
    They reject "mainstream" conservatisn iow the establishment whom they see as not right enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    They reject "mainstream" conservatisn iow the establishment whom they see as not right enough.
    You said we reject mainstream conservatism, not leaders. Tell me which issues!!
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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