Predictions for Trump's presidency

[revelarts]

For the record.
The more days that go by the dimmer the few items of good that i hoped for from Trump are looking compared to my worse fears about how he'll increase a dark authoritarian gov't, increase gov't size and walk away from freedoms and the constitution in the name of faux safety.

while many of you are very happy ..so far... if you ever had any seriousness about "the founding fathers" and the constitution i suspect that you'll have buyer's remorse by the time its over.

But i fear that as long as your personal interest are served that many won't have a problem with anything Trump and his motley crew do.

seems to me that America the "land of the free" is bout dead and few on the right or left really care.

So yeah, Prediction.
Trump's presidency will make the gov't a far more tyrannical surveillance state... more people jailed for political and religious reason, speech muzzled and shut down by various means, more surveillance on everyone innocent and guilty, the same level of "transparency" we got from Obama but the right will be ok with it a since Trump is doing it all "for our safety".

[NightTrain]

For the record.
The more days that go by the dimmer the few items of good that i hoped for from Trump are looking compared to my worse fears about how he'll increase a dark authoritarian gov't, increase gov't size and walk away from freedoms and the constitution in the name of faux safety.

while many of you are very happy ..so far... if you ever had any seriousness about "the founding fathers" and the constitution i suspect that you'll have buyer's remorse by the time its over.

But i fear that as long as your personal interest are served that many won't have a problem with anything Trump and his motley crew do.

seems to me that America the "land of the free" is bout dead and few on the right or left really care.

So yeah, Prediction.
Trump's presidency will make the gov't a far more tyrannical surveillance state... more people jailed for political and religious reason, speech muzzled and shut down by various means, more surveillance on everyone innocent and guilty, the same level of "transparency" we got from Obama but the right will be ok with it a since Trump is doing it all "for our safety".

You said the exact same things about W, too.

[gabosaurus]

Don't think any of that will happen. Trump will be the most heavily scrutinized president so far, just because the media is so wary of him. The White House press corps will be watching his every move. As will the foreign media.
In fact, the foreign media is on Trump already.

http://www.theage.com.au/business/co...20-gstpc2.html

[tailfins]

I wouldn't even try to predict what Trump's presidency could give us. It could range anywhere from letting Congress and his cabinet set the agenda giving us a productive but uneventful tenure all the way to getting into a yuuuge fight with Senate conservatives and advancing the Democrats agenda out of spite. On the keeping out of trouble side of things it could be anywhere from avoiding anything even remotely questionable to doing something clearly impeachable. The Trump presidency is a total roulette wheel with the associated risk of our number not coming up.

[revelarts]

You said the exact same things about W, too.

Patriot Act, Spying on citizen, Torture, Sending the country to unnecessary wars, dentition without trials, excessive secrecy, unconstitutional executive orders etc etc etc.. And Obama overlooked, allowed, continued, increased or added to all of it.

So yeah, I'm expecting more tyranny. In a brazen and roughshod way that we haven't seen yet.

[revelarts]

Don't think any of that will happen. Trump will be the most heavily scrutinized president so far, just because the media is so wary of him. The White House press corps will be watching his every move. As will the foreign media.
In fact, the foreign media is on Trump already.

http://www.theage.com.au/business/co...20-gstpc2.html

He's been scrutinized this whole campaign by the press and the congress and exposed doing/saying various things that would have destroyed most other candidates. Yet those who've come against him have been ineffective and he's mainly gotten his way. The press has lost most of it's credibility lately and Trump's promised to whip them inline in unconstitutional ways by changing the laws so he can sue them and more. And he's shown that he'll kick out of the loop those who don't give him the treatment he likes. Shame and shun those with "with blood everywhere". And Kick out of his briefings those he thinks are "Mexican". And his people will harass them. Who in congress has won a public battle on morals or law so far?

And in the end he gets his way or at the least public support or indifference... everyone's is suppose to respect the el Presidente right? Unless of course some people think he's a gay-muslim-communist-black-christian-radical-racist-non-citizen.

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[revelarts]

I wouldn't even try to predict what Trump's presidency could give us. It could range anywhere from letting Congress and his cabinet set the agenda giving us a productive but uneventful tenure all the way to getting into a yuuuge fight with Senate conservatives and advancing the Democrats agenda out of spite. On the keeping out of trouble side of things it could be anywhere from avoiding anything even remotely questionable to doing something clearly impeachable. The Trump presidency is a total roulette wheel with the associated risk of our number not coming up.

the people he's floating for cabinet post don't seem like DO NOTHINGS to me. And sadly the executive bureaucracies have tons of powers. I don't expect that the new heads of the CIA NSA FBI etc.. will do nothing. I don't expect that the new AG will do nothing. I don't expect that military will do nothing. I don't see him holding back if he wants the national guard or military on the streets... for safety and law and order.
And i don't expect they will restrain themselves to constitutional limits, especially if the Trumpster has an issue with a person, group or nation.
I expect it will get ugly and Trump will self justify himself on ever act and his supporters won't have ANY constitutional issues with ANYTHING that's done under his hand.

[Bilgerat]

[QUOTE=gabosaurus;843863]Don't think any of that will happen. Trump will be the most heavily scrutinized president so far, just because the media is so wary of him.[/quote

Is this the same Media who predicted his trouncing by the Hildabeast? I ask as they were SO accurate and effective there.

The White House press corps will be watching his every move.

Is that the same Press Corps who complained of his ability to go out to dinner without them? Yeah, they were "johnny on the spot" there

As will the foreign media. In fact, the foreign media is on Trump already.

http://www.theage.com.au/business/co...20-gstpc2.html

Oh look, after all the Clinton mess with rigging and stealing via the Clinton Crime Foundation, the media thinks they can see transgressions. How cute is that!

[Kathianne]

I'm sticking with my original instincts which is to wait and see. This may end up being a great administration, it may be terrible; right now however it is not even begun.

I have misgivings on some appointments, but then again, too many I thought would be 'great' have turned into disasters and vice versa. Sort of like SCOTUS appointments that one hopes will act one way, then do a turn about.

The opposition isn't helping their cause, with total rejection of every move, makes it much easier for the new administration to double down and still seem reasonable.

[fj1200]

So yeah, Prediction.

No prediction here, just hope and change.

[jimnyc]

I too heard about the end of the world from Never Trumpers and liberals.

My prediction?

LOTS AND LOTS of butt hurt to continue for quite some time!

[Russ]

For the record.
The more days that go by the dimmer the few items of good that i hoped for from Trump are looking compared to my worse fears about how he'll increase a dark authoritarian gov't, increase gov't size and walk away from freedoms and the constitution in the name of faux safety.

while many of you are very happy ..so far... if you ever had any seriousness about "the founding fathers" and the constitution i suspect that you'll have buyer's remorse by the time its over.

But i fear that as long as your personal interest are served that many won't have a problem with anything Trump and his motley crew do.

seems to me that America the "land of the free" is bout dead and few on the right or left really care.

So yeah, Prediction.
Trump's presidency will make the gov't a far more tyrannical surveillance state... more people jailed for political and religious reason, speech muzzled and shut down by various means, more surveillance on everyone innocent and guilty, the same level of "transparency" we got from Obama but the right will be ok with it a since Trump is doing it all "for our safety".

Rev,
What has Trump said or done that is making you think he will increase a dark authoritarian gov't, increase gov't size, or make the gov't a far more tyrannical surveillance state? If you are listening to certain websites like HuffPost that are trying their hardest to make up headlines that make Trump sound like Stalin, then I could understand drawing that conclusion. Maybe even from interpolating some of Trump's responses to leading questions from the press, I suppose. But has Trump actually made any statements to make you think these things? If so, please reply with an example.

[Elessar]

Rev,
What has Trump said or done that is making you think he will increase a dark authoritarian gov't, increase gov't size, or make the gov't a far more tyrannical surveillance state? If you are listening to certain websites like HuffPost that are trying their hardest to make up headlines that make Trump sound like Stalin, then I could understand drawing that conclusion. Maybe even from interpolating some of Trump's responses to leading questions from the press, I suppose. But has Trump actually made any statements to make you think these things? If so, please reply with an example.

So he has put the liberal establishment on their heels! It's about frikkin' time someone did.

Two decades of liberal whining and obstruction, and now someone faces them down?

I give binkies to all liberals, free of charge! They love freebies.

[revelarts]

Rev,
What has Trump said or done that is making you think he will increase a dark authoritarian gov't, increase gov't size, or make the gov't a far more tyrannical surveillance state? If you are listening to certain websites like HuffPost that are trying their hardest to make up headlines that make Trump sound like Stalin, then I could understand drawing that conclusion. Maybe even from interpolating some of Trump's responses to leading questions from the press, I suppose. But has Trump actually made any statements to make you think these things? If so, please reply with an example.

well for starters lets try this on.

"when your famous you can do anything"
How much more when your president Russ?

that's just personal stuff right just about abusing women, nothing to be concerned about...right?
And it never REALLY happened.

But he's threaten to sue the media in a few speeches.
Same speech he threaten to shut down the internet.
He's says he loves the FAILED and unconstitutional surveillance that NYC did on mosque.
He said he'd do MORE than torture and threatened to kill peoples families.

If you've been following him I think you know these items weren't media set-ups.
You could look them up for yourself... I'll look them up if you agree to unqualifyingly say they ARE in fact unconstitutional and tyrannical.
if you don't think so or don't care ... well then whats the point of showing you?


But he choices he's made for his cabinet has made see clearly that he really doesn't have much intention of "draining the swamp" or changing Washington significantly he's just replacing the alligators and snakes.

[Black Diamond]

well for starters lets try this on.

"when your famous you can do anything"
How much more when your president Russ?

that's just personal stuff right just about abusing women, nothing to be concerned about...right?
And it never REALLY happened.

But he's threaten to sue the media in a few speeches.
Same speech he threaten to shut down the internet.
He's says he loves the FAILED and unconstitutional surveillance that NYC did on mosque.
He said he'd do MORE than torture and threatened to kill peoples families.

If you've been following him I think you know these items weren't media set-ups.
You could look them up for yourself... I'll look them up if you agree to unqualifyingly say they ARE in fact unconstitutional and tyrannical.
if you don't think so or don't care ... well then whats the point of showing you?


But he choices he's made for his cabinet has made see clearly that he really doesn't have much intention of "draining the swamp" or changing Washington significantly he's just replacing the alligators and snakes.

Abusing women,. Lol. Do you need a safety pin tonight?