So "not my president" Obama pardons Manning....nice....
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Manning gets a pardon
So "not my president" Obama pardons Manning....nice....
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Sergeant Major, you KNOW there are certain lines even I don't cross. I'll have my say about his O-Uselessness the second he's out of office. I got ALL kinds of ideas about "disappearing" in the field.Originally Posted by CSM
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
Plant Parenthood.
Good job "not my president"
he he has also pardoned Gen. Cartwright, who leaked info on Stuxnet and was due for sentencing today.
Now he he could just get around to Snowden and Assange...
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
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It's nothing to clap about. When classified information is leaked, people usually die.Good job "not my president"
he he has also pardoned Gen. Cartwright, who leaked info on Stuxnet and was due for sentencing today.
Now he he could just get around to Snowden and Assange...
Top Secret classification - EO 12356 states that the Top Secret classification level "shall be applied to information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security i.e. a few million people could die if this information would fall into the hands of the enemy
Secret classification - information in which the unauthorized disclosure could reasonably be expected to cause serious damage to the national security. - i.e. a few hundred thousand people could die if this information falls into the hands of the hands of the enemy
Snowden should be tried for treason the minute he sets foot on American soil. I'm sure a lot of "assets" that supplied us with information died as a result of that guy. I think you'd feel differently if a member of your family was one of them.
This is a disturbing pattern with El Presidente Incompetente. He takes the matter of classified information and national security so lightly that it's a wonder a major American city isn't a heap of radioactive ashes. I'm sure he had a hand in ensuring that Hillary Clinton's treasonous "carelessness" was met with little more than a mild scolding. She should be worrying about how many years of prison she will be facing rather than attending the Inauguration.
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Obama granting clemency to this brain-addled piece of crap is a slap in the face to all of
us who honored the oaths we took, pledges we took to safeguard information.
This out-going administration did not give a shit. Hillary gets off the hook likely because
of intervention by Bill.
Manning, s/he deserves to stay in prison. What was Obama trying to prove with this move?
Sympathy for a soldier that could not identify with HIS birth gender.
Something is seriously wrong with this.
Here is a link to a list that is all US Federal Law:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/18/3a.11
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Some rather nasty, violent people also were pardoned. BTW, the FALN member from Chicago has 'no regrets,' for what he did:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics...bama-clemency/
CHICAGO 01/17/2017, 04:02pm Ex-leaders of FALN, Gangster Disciples get breaks from Obama
President Obama has given significant sentencing breaks to two convicted felons with Chicago ties — a former leader of the FALN, which was tied to bombings across the United States in the fight for Puerto Rican independence, and an ex-top “governor” of the Gangster Disciples.
Obama granted clemency to Oscar Lopez Rivera, 74, who was sentenced to 55 years in prison for his role in the struggle for independence for the U.S. island territory. He was part of the ultranationalist Armed Forces of National Liberation of FALN that has claimed responsibility for more than 100 bombings at public and commercial buildings in U.S. cities, including Chicago, New York and Washington, during the 1970s and ’80s.
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To be sure means to have proofs. I'll be very grateful if you show a pair of proved cases which made you think this very way.
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Let's sum it up.
Noir is a wussy pussy that has never done a thing personally to stand up and defend the U.K.
All he does is whine and try to preach to us, hiding behind his mommy's skirt.
Yet he comes in here and dares to tell US Armed Forces Vets what to think.
No experience or basis in fact involved. Fucking coward...
Time to clean out your diapers Noir, and become a man and not a spoiled child.
At least Balu cites being a Russian military officer.
I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?
"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same of others"...John Wayne in "The Shootist"
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Manning Schmanning, I'm upset that he pardoned Willie McCovey and Duke Snider for tax evasion.
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Paybacks for Obama....are a joke.
If Obama can Pardon a known TRAITOR, then Trump should be able to PARDON... General David H. Petraeus. His so-called crime was tiny compared to the TRANNY DRAG QUEEN Obama loves so much.
I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
So, this is for them.
GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !
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You are apparently very pleased that those who take the security of this nation lightly (intentionally or otherwise) will be free to place the citizens of the US in further danger. I wonder if you would be so cavalier with your own country's security and your own safety....Good job "not my president"
he he has also pardoned Gen. Cartwright, who leaked info on Stuxnet and was due for sentencing today.
Now he he could just get around to Snowden and Assange...
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson
Just Me
He has always lived under someone else's umbrella, Sergeant Major. He's never had to do anything and couldn't defend himself from a seagull.
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke
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It is my sincerest hope that Manning has his man parts removed before release. What he does after that is his problem and at HIS expense....
As for Noir, it is easy to poke at the issues undergone by others. Right up until that same sort of thing occurs for those such as he. Then the wailing and gnashing of teeth begins; along with the assertion that others MUST do something to relieve them of their plight.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson
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Oh, I think that he would be.
I believe I can take it as read that our resident Pond-distant Leftie is / would be a British Labour Party supporter (it's certainly a lot more likely than his supporting their opposition ..) ? Well ... Jeremy Corbyn, Labour's leader, is on record as publicly declaring that he'd never authorise the use of nuclear weapons against an enemy, under ANY circumstances !!
The security of Western nations relies in no small part upon the deterrence mere ownership of nukes suggests must exist. Corbyn's idea is to totally remove any deterrent factor against any foreign aggressor.
I think this speak for itself.
It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!
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Does this mean he will pardon Putin?
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