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    Default women in politics

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...012601626.html

    Interesting read from a feminist of all people. I dont think im going to comment on this. just thought it was interesting.

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    It is an interesting perspective for sure.Though, I do not think that her "study" of what sways women's vote's was very broad. It is an easy assumption to make that most women read People magazine and get all their Political information from their male counterparts. But it is as holy as Swiss cheese, you will be able to find any given stereotype if you search for it. There is a plethora of independent women who have minds of their own, are involved in politics, and will make educated decisions either for or against Hilary in the election. It is like any piece of information from the media, you have to do your own investigation to come to a real conclusion of reality and fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Slayer View Post
    It is an interesting perspective for sure.Though, I do not think that her "study" of what sways women's vote's was very broad. It is an easy assumption to make that most women read People magazine and get all their Political information from their male counterparts. But it is as holy as Swiss cheese, you will be able to find any given stereotype if you search for it. There is a plethora of independent women who have minds of their own, are involved in politics, and will make educated decisions either for or against Hilary in the election. It is like any piece of information from the media, you have to do your own investigation to come to a real conclusion of reality and fiction.
    I actually think her sampling was fairly strange. None of these women read? They ask their husbands to keep them informed? While I'm sure that's true of *some* women, it certainly isn't a reflective sampling.

    Maybe her friends are all vapid?

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    Jillian - you should 'sample' your peers and see how that stands up to the article.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    I actually think her sampling was fairly strange. None of these women read? They ask their husbands to keep them informed? While I'm sure that's true of *some* women, it certainly isn't a reflective sampling.

    Maybe her friends are all vapid?
    Yeah... I saw that she admitted her sampling wasn't scientific at all. I wouldn't put a lot of credence in the article, although her ideas are interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    Yeah... I saw that she admitted her sampling wasn't scientific at all. I wouldn't put a lot of credence in the article, although her ideas are interesting.
    Well, they were interesting as conjecture and something to think about. But in terms of having validity??? I'd say it's a major stretch.

    Although I will credit her for being candid about how unscientific it was.

    Food for thought, I guess.

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    My own theory is that women don't decide elections because they're not rational political actors -- they don't make firm policy commitments and back the candidates who will move society in the direction they want it to go.
    Oh god, ouch! Traitorous bitch.

    Instead, they vote on impulse, and on elusive factors such as personality.
    I think most voters vote this way. Every Presidential election, every candidate, most laypeople talk about his charistma and whether they'd like to have a beer with him. Few people actually examine and compare things like voting records.

    I've been hearing a sort of lip-service to doing so with Hillary - people talking about not voting for her just because she's woman and making sure she's really the best candidate. And then the conversation turns to Obama and how well dressed and photogenic he is.

    Hillary's got some time to get her personality out there, but she'd better get on it if she wants to keep her lead.

    As far as feminist causes, she has issues on her radar I don't think any other candidate ever has. I don't know if that's going to help her or hurt her. She's being awfully quiet about it so far.
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    all i can figure is every 28 days we are going to war over nothing

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

    ~Albert Camus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbalicious View Post
    I think most voters vote this way. Every Presidential election, every candidate, most laypeople talk about his charistma and whether they'd like to have a beer with him. Few people actually examine and compare things like voting records.
    It has been my experience that most liberals vote they way they "feel", and conservatives vote on "facts".

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    nyuck! she gits her pariod she's a gone hit da nucular button!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbalicious View Post
    nyuck! she gits her pariod she's a gone hit da nucular button!
    doubtful....she needs a man to change a lightbulb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    It has been my experience that most liberals vote they way they "feel", and conservatives vote on "facts".


    GWB was "the guy you wanted to have a beer with," and Reagan was the "father figure," but conservatives and republicans don't base their votes on emotions or feelings. No sir.

    And btw, are you capable of having a discussion without making it about the blue team vs the red team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    doubtful....she needs a man to change a lightbulb
    And I bet you can't figure out why women tend to vote for Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbalicious View Post
    And I bet you can't figure out why women tend to vote for Democrats.
    you think they have a cute ass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbalicious View Post
    And I bet you can't figure out why women tend to vote for Democrats.
    Because they would rather talk about fixing problems then actually fix them.

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