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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Or perhaps they're not.
    Perhaps not. But considering there have been gay folks around for quite some time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    You have a problem with trans-species love?

    Shame, you Species-ist!
    Okay, I'm cracking up. You know why cowboys wear big boots. right? So the goats can't get their feet out while being mounted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Perhaps not. But considering there have been gay folks around for quite some time...
    So have pedophiles. The difference is, the latter has not been normalized by the media.

    So far, anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    So have pedophiles. The difference is, the latter has not been normalized by the media.

    So far, anyway.
    Pedophiles =/= homosexuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Pedophiles =/= homosexuals.
    Alright. If you're going to pretend there's no slippery slope I'm gonna lose some respect for your intelligence level. SO what's next? What's the next barrier the left is going to break down? They always have one. All they do is promote the aberrant.

    Name something normal these leftist a-holes stand for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Alright. If you're going to pretend there's no slippery slope I'm gonna lose some respect for your intelligence level. SO what's next? What's the next barrier the left is going to break down? They always have one. All they do is promote the aberrant.

    Name something normal these leftist a-holes stand for.
    Yeah that pesky slippery slope! Hope no one has sex other than in missionary style and for conception only! Everything else is deviant! Slippery slope!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Pedophiles =/= homosexuals.
    To some extent they are equal as both are abnormal for Human Nature, and this path leads to the destruction of Society. We see this on the examples of Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome. The Church traditionally stood guard over this and treated it as a sin.
    Unfortunately nowadays the Overtone window is in action. These sins start be treated as a norm of existence. Moreover it is promoted and inoculated to children on a State level.
    What I've said is an attitude to this subject in Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    Pedophiles =/= homosexuals.
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    Didn't say they were equal or not-equal. Not a relevant point. <br><br>They are, however, a good example of why your former post about society wasn't a good argument. <br>
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Yeah that pesky slippery slope! Hope no one has sex other than in missionary style and for conception only! Everything else is deviant! Slippery slope!!!
    That argument of course makes it normal behavior. I argue at the biological level and sometimes the moral level. Abs is arguing about the morality;

    You. on the other hand are arguing at the what can I get away with next? level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Wellll, your anger aside, there is a vast difference between seeing something on the street, and seeing it promoted and given the thumbs-up in a children's movie. Why do you think Madison Ave and Hollywood constantly try to normalize it through the air waves, etc.? They know the power of the media to influence minds.
    Quote Originally Posted by fj1200 View Post
    To the OP: Oh no?
    Perhaps they're following society rating than normalizing.
    Ohhh...well...think people don't sit up and take notice on these cartoon movies?

    Remember Bambi? A cartoon creature that had human speech and emotions?

    I do recall the Anti-hunter's lament in the 70's and 80's of "You killed Bambi"!
    Damn worse situation than hunting is the sprawl of human encroachment, pushing them
    out of their food sources, prohibiting harvests of excess animals, and see them
    starving along a busy highway.

    Better re-think that Disney movies do not influence. They are as far left in mind
    manipulation as can be in many cases
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    A Deplorable!

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    I agree with this take on it

    Dear leftists in Hollywood intent on pushing incessant gayness, even when unnecessary and irrelevant,

    Today it seems Hollywood’s primary mission, especially television, is to shove gayness into wherever it may fit. It’s getting tired. Namely because it’s being pushed by a tiny minority of militant gay activists in the gay community. I want to make this crystal clear. I’m not suggesting ALL gays are pushing for all gay characters in all TV shows or movies. I contend like with most issues in our political climate, the “Gay Agenda” in TV is being shoved by a fraction of a percent of the gay population. Their members of the Gaystapo. Small in numbers, shrill in voice. As stated before, the Gaystapo, and now the Hollywood Gay Agenda Pushers DO NOT represent millions of gay people who just want to live their lives in peace. Okay? Okay.
    The thing is, there seems to be a gay storyline in every modern TV show out there. The one and only modern show I can think of without any uber-gay plot line? Breaking Bad. I’ve watched the show three times. Didn’t see any gayness. But every other show I’ve seen? Somehow it always manages to slip in.




    Have we reached a time in our culture where being straight is scandalous, where insisting we’re not sexually fluid will be seen as backwards hate speech?
    Maybe I’m paranoid, but it seems we’re getting close, especially in how gay characters are portrayed: healthy, loving, never abusive toward each other. Even though physical abuse in homosexual relationships is sky high. Particularly among Lesbians. No, no, you Hollywood social engineers are intent on portraying GAY as HEALTHY. Which is doing a great disservice to the rampant domestic violence in the gay community.
    So a favor, please. Can we go back to just being entertained? Can’t we cut it out with the man on man love, displayed graphically? I know even suggesting such a thing makes me a hateful homophobe, but wouldn’t it be lovely if you folks in the entertainment industry could focus on you know… entertaining us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar View Post
    Ohhh...well...think people don't sit up and take notice on these cartoon movies?

    Remember Bambi? A cartoon creature that had human speech and emotions?

    I do recall the Anti-hunter's lament in the 70's and 80's of "You killed Bambi"!
    Damn worse situation than hunting is the sprawl of human encroachment, pushing them
    out of their food sources, prohibiting harvests of excess animals, and see them
    starving along a busy highway.

    Better re-think that Disney movies do not influence. They are as far left in mind
    manipulation as can be in many cases
    This or that way the cartoons for kids are modeling the norms of society, the problems of good and evil in a form of a fairy tale, the most accessible for understanding and assimilation for the children, thus making the moral basis for their future life. In his early years, the child absorbs everything like a sponge, and lives with it the rest of his life. Here in Russia we have a good proverb 'We all come from childhood'.
    So, this question is very serious.
    For example, in previous times Vatican excluded all Soviet cartoons from the list of their censorship and let them go free on the screens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Didn't say they were equal or not-equal. Not a relevant point.

    They are, however, a good example of why your former post about society wasn't a good argument.
    Well given the story is about a women who falls in love with an animal that kidnaps her, do you have a problem with the promotion of beastiality or Stockholm syndrome within the movie?

    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    How many non-heterosexual people do you know in your life?

    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    To some extent they are equal as both are abnormal for Human Nature
    That would be the same extent of abnormal equality which would account for you being able to type a silly statement in Russia and have it seen around the world within seconds.
    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post

    How many non-heterosexual people do you know in your life?

    How would I know? I don't label people based on their sex preferences. Everyone I know in my life has the chance to be homosexual whenever they want until they decide to stop. Or not. (shrug).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    How would I know? I don't label people based on their sex preferences. Everyone I know in my life has the chance to be homosexual whenever they want until they decide to stop. Or not. (shrug).
    A very oddly vague statement, put another way - have you in your life known atleast one person who was non-heterosexual?
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    If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.

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