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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    The Civil War is part of American history. I see no reason to pretend that it didn't exist. I also see no reason to glorify the key figures of the Confederacy. For the same reason why there are no statues of Nazi leaders in Germany.
    History celebrates the winners, not the losers.
    Nazi comparison is invalid and wrong.
    As to speaking about such leaders be they confederate politicians or military officers, that is a historic discussion, not to be confused with
    debating the right or wrong of pro or anti-slavery issues.-Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Nazi comparison is invalid and wrong.
    As to speaking about such leaders be they confederate politicians or military officers, that is a historic discussion, not to be confused with
    debating the right or wrong of pro or anti-slavery issues.-Tyr
    I agree with you in principle; however, the left's myth has re-written history. You cannot divorce one from the other. One of our earlier examples of the MSM. Horace Greely and Beecher-Stowe used slavery as their red herring. The war was fought over money. Northern industry made their money from domestic textile goods and the South made theirs from trade with the Europe. The Northerners wanted a high tariff and the South did not. Abolitionists were actually a small minority. They just tossed their hats in the ring on the side that eventually won. This was about control of the government, the people and money.

    Regardless what some wish to believe, the social and economic divide still exists. They just changed the names. Nowadays we're uneducated rednecks. And these crybabies want to wipe our heritage away, and blacks think they are entitled when they have more opportunity than we do. We have to earn our sh*t.
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    The US Constitution is actually a rip off of the magna carta from England. The CSA constitution did the same. Changed a few words around. The American Revolution was fought because some rich boys didn't want to pay their taxes so they committed treason.

    There's a theme here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I agree with you in principle; however, the left's myth has re-written history. You cannot divorce one from the other. One of our earlier examples of the MSM. Horace Greely and Beecher-Stowe used slavery as their red herring. The war was fought over money.
    Funny how the Vice President of the Confederacy disagrees with you. Still, revisionists will revise.

    Our new government is founded upon exactly [this] idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.

    The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.

    https://en.wikipedia.org


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