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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    What part of "Trump was sending a message" are you failing to grasp?
    Apparently the message didn't work

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Apparently the message didn't work
    You won't know that until asshat bombs his own people again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    You won't know that until asshat bombs his own people again.
    The goal is to make sure he doesn't do that Again. Not so he doesn't use his air fields. At least at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Apparently the message didn't work
    Time will tell.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    The goal is to make sure he doesn't do that Again. Not so he doesn't use his air fields. At least at this point.
    Or what? We'll send more missiles that don't do any damage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Or what? We'll send more missiles that don't do any damage?
    Or we'll destroy his entire airforce and all his airfields, this time making them inoperative by cratering the runways which will make the Russians unable to help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Or we'll destroy his entire airforce and all his airfields, this time making them inoperative by cratering the runways which will make the Russians unable to help.
    I think McCain would have done that two nights ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Or what? We'll send more missiles that don't do any damage?
    Ask Nikki Haley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I think McCain would have done that two nights ago.
    That and more, I suspect. Weird that McCain is gung-ho on foreign military ops but totally okay with hordes of aliens actually invading our country... it doesn't jive.

    Trump is trying the show of force option first; he can always escalate if the message isn't taken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    My congratulations to you and the terrorists you keep on supporting!

    US airstrike was ‘generous gift’ to Islamic State — Chechen leader

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    "The way was cleared for terrorists," Ramzan Kadyrov said.



    Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov

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    MOSCOW, April 8. /TASS/. The US air strike on a Syrian air force base in Homs became a "generous gift" for terrorists in Syria, Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov said on his Instagram page.
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    Defense Ministry: Militants launch massive attack on Syrian troops after US missile strike


    "The blood of civilians was spilled by missiles from their (US) warships in a generous gift for the IS (Islamic State terrorist group, outlawed in Russia - TASS). The exhausted army of (Syrian President Bashar) Asad lost up to ten aircraft. The way was cleared for terrorists," Kadyrov said.
    However, the Chechen leader said, the West chose to turn a blind eye to this blatant violation of the international law.
    "The world does not dare to voice any objection against US actions," he said. "The European Parliament, which reacts to every minor issue in Russia, now holds its tongue."
    On an order from US President Donald Trump, the US armed forces fired a total of 59 Tomahawk subsonic cruise missiles at a military airfield in Syria’s Homs Governorate. The deadly strike came as a response for the chemical attack in Idlib on April 4 and targeted what Washington claims was a starting location for the attack.
    Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Moscow views the incident as an aggression against a sovereign state.
    According to the Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman, Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, Syrian militants launched a large-scale offensive on positions held by the Syrian government troops shortly after the strike.

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    The thing of it is, Balu, that there's been, as yet, NO independent investigation. The nature of the agent used argues strongly for Assad's deployment of it.

    You'll never accept so much as the possibility of it. Will you ? But I say, what if Assad definitely DID launch a chemical attack ? That breaches all standards of 'legitimate Government', and that's a massive understatement !!

    Brutally gassing CHILDREN with a weapon classified as a WMD ... doesn't that qualify as a terrorist action ??

    So, Balu, given that Assad IS responsible .. would that then place you in the position of active TERRORIST SUPPORT ??

    In this world, Balu, at least minimal human standards need to be exercised by those wielding power, and certainly nation leaders. Do you accept that principle, or not ? If you do, then there may well come a time when, if you're to be true to that belief, you'll have to give up your blanket support of Assad.

    I don't think you will. But ... prove me wrong.

    We shall see.
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Or we'll destroy his entire airforce and all his airfields, this time making them inoperative by cratering the runways which will make the Russians unable to help.
    Do you have a source or is this just something you made up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    My congratulations to you and the terrorists you keep on supporting!
    Go back to jailing homosexuals, you got no moral standing

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Do you have a source or is this just something you made up?
    Actually Nikki Haley did a decent job of explaining. This was a warning shot. May be felt around the world.

    the last fragment is my opinion or guess. I don't have a crystal ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    The thing of it is, Balu, that there's been, as yet, NO independent investigation. The nature of the agent used argues strongly for Assad's deployment of it.

    You'll never accept so much as the possibility of it. Will you ? But I say, what if Assad definitely DID launch a chemical attack ? That breaches all standards of 'legitimate Government', and that's a massive understatement !!

    Brutally gassing CHILDREN with a weapon classified as a WMD ... doesn't that qualify as a terrorist action ??

    So, Balu, given that Assad IS responsible .. would that then place you in the position of active TERRORIST SUPPORT ??

    In this world, Balu, at least minimal human standards need to be exercised by those wielding power, and certainly nation leaders. Do you accept that principle, or not ? If you do, then there may well come a time when, if you're to be true to that belief, you'll have to give up your blanket support of Assad.

    I don't think you will. But ... prove me wrong.

    We shall see.
    I doubt anyone is going to do anything. I think most of the world is tired of the Middle East and doesn't want to get involved. Personally I know I am tired of it. But they aren't happy over there if they aren't killing someone over something. It's their main industry. They'd to actually get jobs and go to work otherwise.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Do you have a source or is this just something you made up?
    That's the next logical step, and one that will make Assad lose his Civil War. He's on the ropes now with an active Air Force and the Russians doing everything they can to prop him up short of fighting his ground war themselves.

    Remove airforce capabilities and he'll topple without a massive ground force deployment by Putin, neatly putting them in a very expensive and unpopular quagmire for their troubles. At that point I suspect Putin will wash his hands of the whole thing and abandon his puppet dictator.

    Yeah, we probably won't like who emerges on top, but we certainly don't like the one who is there now that has demonstrated no qualms of using WMD / Chem Weapons against civilians, no less.

    Plus, by eliminating airforce capability, we can establish no-fly safe zones for the Syrians as they're begging for now so that they don't have to become refugees.
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