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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Did seeing the injured/dead kids pull on Presidents heart strings ?
    I hope not. There are atrocities done to children every day. Might as well missile dozens of countries if that is the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Using Chemical Weapons in any case is illegal and wrong on every level, let alone the fact that it was used on civilians.

    Remove the Chem Warfare and this wouldn't have been done - Assad was testing Trump to see if he was a pussy like 0bama was.

    I think he's got the picture, now... and it sent a message to other ruthless despots.
    and it was true when he was criticizing Obama-who pawned it off to Putin in any case.

    What if??? Syria uses chemical weapons in the next days, months, years? The Pentagon has already said they did NOT target the stockpiles. They notified Russia through diplomatic channels well before the attack, which means Syria knew it was coming. Assad will be standing tomorrow, perhaps even appearing and showing he is still there.

    As I said, I'm not saying that US shouldn't have acted, but while not announcing it to the press, they certainly did allow the major players to know in advance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    You obviously suffer from being unable to realize the difference between strategic airstrikes vs. boots-on-the-ground combat forces.
    There are many military objectives on the territories of many countries. Are you in a state of war with Syria to strike them? Or you think that it is permissible to any country to act this way against any other country at own consideration without declaring war?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Did seeing the injured/dead kids pull on Presidents heart strings ?
    Sure sounded like it. I'm sure Trump saw some pretty gruesome footage from recon assets of the carnage in HD.

    Nerve Agent is a horrific way to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    There are many military objectives on the territories of many countries. Are you in a state of war with Syria to strike them? Or you think that it is permissible to any country to act this way against any other country at own consideration without declaring war?

    When did Russia declare war on the Ukraine?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I hope not. There are atrocities done to children every day. Might as well missile dozens of countries if that is the case.
    I am surprised by the President's reversal over the past 3 days. Any chance there is a deeper reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    There are many military objectives on the territories of many countries. Are you in a state of war with Syria to strike them? Or you think that it is permissible to any country to act this way against any other country at own consideration without declaring war?
    It is permissible to brutally strike any country that engages in Chemical Warfare of civilians. Yes.

    There are only 4 UN members that are not signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention : Egypt, Israel, North Korea and South Sudan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I am surprised by the President's reversal over the past 3 days. Any chance there is a deeper reason?
    Like China/North Korea? An argument may be made. Then again, going to have to explain the whole ME plan that he laid out during the election.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    There are many military objectives on the territories of many countries. Are you in a state of war with Syria to strike them? Or you think that it is permissible to any country to act this way against any other country at own consideration without declaring war?
    We haven't declared war since 1941.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I am surprised by the President's reversal over the past 3 days. Any chance there is a deeper reason?
    There almost always is. Correct me if I'm wrong but the miltary has a duty to reject an order if the president doesn't seem rational. For example if Trump saw those photos, looked angry and then ordered missles to be fired. I mean the generals and security officials aren't robots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    There almost always is. Correct me if I'm wrong but the miltary has a duty to reject an order if the president doesn't seem rational. For example if Trump saw those photos, looked angry and then ordered missles to be fired. I mean the generals and security officials aren't robots.
    not going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    When did Russia declare war on the Ukraine?
    Russian military troops DID NOT conduct and ARE NOT conducting military actions against Ukraine.
    If you think I am wrong please do enumerate the numbers of Russian and Ukrainian units (brigades, regiments, companies, platoons) from both sides engaged, or stop talking your propaganda shit.
    To compare, in 2008 the 58th Army acted to stop Georgian aggression against South Osetya and сontingent of international peacekeepers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    not going to happen.
    Are you saying the miltary will never reject an order from the president? Trump clearly develops a bit of insanity and orders the launch of every nuke and you're telling me they do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    Russian military troops DID NOT conduct and ARE NOT conducting military actions against Ukraine.
    If you think I am wrong please do enumerate the numbers of Russian and Ukrainian units (brigades, regiments, companies, platoons) from both sides engaged, or stop talking your propaganda shit.
    To compare, in 2008 the 58th Army acted to stop Georgian aggression against South Osetya and сontingent of international peacekeepers.
    You stop your bullshit propaganda. We all know that Russia has used troops, guns, political upheaval, assassinated political leaders in the Ukraine, recently assassinated a Russian dissident in the Ukraine. They did the same in Crimea.

    Regardless of your enjoyment of poetry, you have not fooled anyone with your propaganda for Russian and your anti-American bias.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Are you saying the miltary will never reject an order from the president? Trump clearly develops a bit of insanity and orders the launch of every nuke and you're telling me they do it?
    59 tomahawk missiles at an airfield =/= launching all our nuclear arsenal.

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