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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    Russian military troops DID NOT conduct and ARE NOT conducting military actions against Ukraine.
    If you think I am wrong please do enumerate the numbers of Russian and Ukrainian units (brigades, regiments, companies, platoons) from both sides engaged, or stop talking your propaganda shit.
    To compare, in 2008 the 58th Army acted to stop Georgian aggression against South Osetya and сontingent of international peacekeepers.
    Do you work for Pravda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    59 tomahawk missiles at an airfield =/= launching all our nuclear arsenal.
    Obviously. What did you mean when you replied to me "not going to happen"? My reply to that maybe misunderstood what you were saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Obviously. What did you mean when you replied to me "not going to happen"? My reply to that maybe misunderstood what you were saying.
    The presidents orders are generally followed. I assume even if he orders nuclear attack, the orders are followed.

    I don't see trump using nukes and I don't see the military disobeying trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Did he?

    Obviously not....and obama agrees....
    Last edited by LongTermGuy; 04-06-2017 at 11:05 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Like China/North Korea? An argument may be made. Then again, going to have to explain the whole ME plan that he laid out during the election.
    And Maybe Russia and Iran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    And Maybe Russia and Iran.
    I think the fact that Russia was notified well in advance speaks towards that. You disagree? The China case may be stronger, in the sense of WMD's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    Russian military troops DID NOT conduct and ARE NOT conducting military actions against Ukraine.
    If you think I am wrong please do enumerate the numbers of Russian and Ukrainian units (brigades, regiments, companies, platoons) from both sides engaged, or stop talking your propaganda shit.
    Challenge accepted

    http://euromaidanpress.com/2016/11/2...ar-in-ukraine/

    http://russian-presence-in-ukraine.silk.co/

    https://informnapalm.org/en/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I think the fact that Russia was notified well in advance speaks towards that. You disagree? The China case may be stronger, in the sense of WMD's.

    I don't necessarily disagree. The Russians half heartedly condemned the air strike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    You stop your bullshit propaganda. We all know that Russia has used troops, guns, political upheaval, assassinated political leaders in the Ukraine, recently assassinated a Russian dissident in the Ukraine. They did the same in Crimea.

    Regardless of your enjoyment of poetry, you have not fooled anyone with your propaganda for Russian and your anti-American bias.
    I am still waiting for you telling me numbers of Russian military units and the armies engaged, as you stated that 'all know'. Otherwise this is your proofless propaganda bullshit.
    Every serviceman (even retired and in reserve) knows that EVERY military unit has OWN number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    and it was true when he was criticizing Obama-who pawned it off to Putin in any case.

    What if??? Syria uses chemical weapons in the next days, months, years? The Pentagon has already said they did NOT target the stockpiles. They notified Russia through diplomatic channels well before the attack, which means Syria knew it was coming. Assad will be standing tomorrow, perhaps even appearing and showing he is still there.

    As I said, I'm not saying that US shouldn't have acted, but while not announcing it to the press, they certainly did allow the major players to know in advance.
    I read on Fox that Putin wasn't forewarned of the attack...? Could have been a bad bit of info.

    If he did, I disapprove - you can't telegraph the attack or it severely mitigates the action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I don't see trump using nukes and I don't see the military disobeying trump.
    My hypothetical is that if the basis for Trump's order was simply the emotions he got from looking at the photos I think the military and defense big wigs would step in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    I read on Fox that Putin wasn't forewarned of the attack...? Could have been a bad bit of info.

    If he did, I disapprove - you can't telegraph the attack or it severely mitigates the action.
    If Russians were killed without proper notice, that could be a bad situation no?

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    Jesus, where do you dredge up these goofball sites? Do you strive to find the most unofficial sites possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balu View Post
    I am still waiting for you telling me numbers of Russian military units and the armies engaged, as you stated that 'all know'. Otherwise this is your proofless propaganda bullshit.
    Every serviceman (even retired and in reserve) knows that the military units has their numbers.
    Screw off. We are not sending propaganda, even facts, of what your lousy government is doing to your people in Russia and former satellites. It's you coming here and spouting your dictator's line.

    There's no rule that says we have to listen to your drivel, much less accept it. Not your pro-Putin garbage. Not how great Russia is. Not how the US sucks. We can say how the US sucks, but we don't have to make you feel warm and fuzzy by not calling it for what it is.

    We don't have to pretend we buy your bullshit about 'democratically elected' president Putin. Bullshit!

    Nor do we have to bother with your 'demands/challenges,' nope, you can just say take a flying ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Jesus, where do you dredge up these goofball sites? Do you strive to find the most unofficial sites possible?
    You shouldn't read them. Doing so is like denying the Holocaust.

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