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    Is he upset that his story fell as the meeting with the Russians took hold?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...KCN18C2Q8?il=0

    Tue May 16, 2017 | 6:30pm EDTTrump asked Comey to shut down Flynn probe: source

    By Mark Hosenball | WASHINGTON

    President Donald Trump asked then-FBI Director James Comey to shut down an investigation into ties between former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn and Russia, an associate of Comey, who has seen the memo, said on Tuesday.

    The associate told Reuters that the details of the document as first reported by the New York Times were accurate.

    “I hope you can let this go,” Trump told Comey, according to the language of the memo, which the source confirmed.

    The White House denied the report in a statement to reporters, saying it was "not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the President and Mr. Comey."

    The memo was written by Comey immediately after his meeting in the White House Oval Office with Trump one day after Flynn resigned over his contacts with Russians.


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    This NYT piece is getting constant coverage on FOX. Seems the reporter that wrote the story for the Times is the same that broke the story about Hillary's illegal server.

    Questions are:

    1. Did Comey share the memo of possible interference with an investigation to anyone else at FBI or Justice?
    2. Was Trump trying to intimidate Comey regarding Flynn?
    3. Was obstruction of justice actually committed? If so, did Comey share it with others responsible for upholding the law?
    4. Several are saying that if this actually happened, Comey is going to be at fault if not reported but now being released through the Times, basically a
    public bringing of charges would make an investigation near impossible.

    If you want to read the article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/u...stigation.html

    This paragraph may be getting more attention in a bit:

    Alone in the Oval Office, Mr. Trump began the discussion by condemning leaks to the news media, saying that Mr. Comey should consider putting reporters in prison for publishing classified information, according to one of Mr. Comey’s associates.


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    Last edited by pete311; 05-16-2017 at 06:23 PM.

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    Default Something None of them will ever accept, or like about Trump.

    No matter what NEWS PAPER, SOURCE, OR TV NETWORK insists their story will destroy Trump, and the Republicans....

    The only thing NONE of the FAKE NEWS OUTLETS, or pretend journalism students can change is...." THE TRUTH!"
    As long as TRUMP keeps stating the truth, which cannot be DISPUTED by anyone.

    They will be throwing mud at walls for 4, or 8 years. And, much to their displeasure,
    with PETEY, gabby, and all the other MISERABLE LIBERALS FULL OF HATE.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Yeah, and their all red herrings, which the Dems & the MSM are experts at. Nothing to see here other than b.s..
    “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

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    Default Stop HITTING yourself petey...because.....

    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    No matter what NEWS PAPER, SOURCE, OR TV NETWORK insists their story will destroy Trump, and the Republicans....

    The only thing NONE of the FAKE NEWS OUTLETS, or pretend journalism students can change is...." THE TRUTH!"
    As long as TRUMP keeps stating the truth, which cannot be DISPUTED by anyone.

    They will be throwing mud at walls for 4, or 8 years. And, much to their displeasure,
    with PETEY, gabby, and all the other MISERABLE LIBERALS FULL OF HATE.





    BINGO! WELL SAID, BRAVO!
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    I've watched more of FOX today than I have since the election. It's amazing how little defense of Trump is being done here. They would be well advised to hire NightTrain to speak, maybe the WH should consider HIM for press secretary?

    Here's Krauthammer's response to how little 'help' Trump is getting:

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/05/1...mey-memo-flynn

    Charles Krauthammer said the lack of Republicans defending President Trump from the latest damaging news report about his administration.

    The New York Times reported that former FBI Director James Comey wrote a memo saying Trump asked him to discontinue his bureau's investigation into Gen. Michael Flynn.


    Krauthammer said it was "stunning" that no Republicans - "not even from the White House" - have defended Trump following this report.

    He said such a phenomenon could happen because Trump's defenders in the past two critical news stories have been contradicted by the president in some way.

    "They've just watched... people who went out on a limb...had the limb sawed off by Donald Trump himself without a flinch," Krauthammer said.

    "Who is going to step out now in these denials that can very well be true when you've seen what happened to Republicans...in two other cases?" Krauthammer asked.




    Mark Thiessen seems convinced that the bottom line is this is all happening because of how Trump fired Comey and followed up by trashing him the days after.


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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    I attack Trump and you attack me. Sounds reasonable.

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    It seems that like it or not, investigations will follow:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/33...for-comey-memo

    House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) indicated he’s willing to issue a subpoena to obtain a memo authored by former FBI Director James Comey stating that President Trump asked the FBI to stop its probe of Michael Flynn.

    Chaffetz tweeted Tuesday night that his committee "is going to get the Comey memo, if it exists. I need to see it sooner rather than later. I have my subpoena pen ready."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I attack Trump and you attack me. Sounds reasonable.


    Call it whatever you want petey. I call it TELLING THE TRUTH. Dispute that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Call it whatever you want petey. I call it TELLING THE TRUTH. Dispute that!
    Telling the truth... no wonder you defend Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Telling the truth... no wonder you defend Trump.


    No need to ever DEFEND the Truth. Not even you have the power to change it.
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    Burr said he thinks Comey would have shared the memo with him and Warner had it existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Burr said he thinks Comey would have shared the memo with him and Warner had it existed.
    Not sure what Burr said:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...chable-offense

    The Comey Memo: The Allegation Is Serious, and There Is No Good Outcome by DAVID FRENCH May 16, 2017 7:36 PM

    Multiple news outlets are now reporting that James Comey wrote in a memo that Donald Trump asked him to drop the FBI’s investigation of former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Here’s the New York Times story that started it all:

    President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

    “I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

    The Times does not have a copy of the memo and claims instead that a Comey associate read excerpts to a reporter:

    Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey’s associates read parts of the memo to a Times reporter.

    The Trump administration is denying Trump made the request, writing in an unsigned statement:

    “The president has never asked Mr. Comey or anyone else to end an investigation, including any investigation involving General Flynn. . . . This is not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and Mr. Comey.’’

    The analysis here is pretty simple. If the memo exists, then there is compelling evidence that the president committed a potentially impeachable offense. Here is the alleged chain of events: First, Trump asked Comey to drop an investigation of a close former associate and a former senior official in his administration. Second, Comey refused. Third, weeks later Trump fired Comey. Fourth, Trump then misled the American people regarding the reason for the dismissal. Each prong is important, but it’s worth noting that the fourth prong — Trump’s deception regarding the reason for Comey’s termination — is particularly problematic in context. Deception is classic evidence of malign intent.

    If true, this is a serious abuse of power, and a Republican Congress would certainly impeach a Democrat if the roles were reversed. But — and this is vitally important to everyone at DEFCON 1 on Twitter — we don’t know yet if the New York Times account is true. Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr raised reasonable objections:

    “I actually believe the director might have told us that there’d been a request like that and it was never mentioned by him,” the North Carolina Republican told reporters. “So somebody’s going to have to do more than have anonymous sources on this one for me to believe that there’s something there.”


    Lindsay Graham — no fan of Trump — also raised a legitimate point:

    “If this happened, the FBI director should have done something about it or quit,” Graham said. “If the president asked the FBI director to do something inappropriate, the FBI director should have said no and quit.”

    The bottom line is that Americans need to see the memo, if it exists. The gravity of the accusation demands immediate Congressional action. Burr’s committee should subpoena that memo and every memo or other document reflecting the content of conversations between Comey and President Trump. Do it today. Burr told reporters that the “burden is on the New York Times” to produce the memo, but that’s absurd. The Times doesn’t have the ability to compel its production. House and Senate committees do, and they need to do their job.

    There is no good outcome here. Either there is now compelling evidence that the president committed a serious abuse of power, or the nation’s leading press outlets are dupes for a vindictive, misleading story. Either outcome violates the public trust in vital American institutions. Either outcome results in a degree of political chaos. If the memo is real and as damaging as the Times claims, the chaos is likely greater, but don’t underestimate the cultural and political damage if our nation’s most prestigious press outlets run a story of this magnitude based on a malicious fiction. It’s time for facts and documents, not anonymity and allegations. It’s time for the truth.




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