Results 1 to 14 of 14

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Posts
    48,139
    Thanks (Given)
    34530
    Thanks (Received)
    26620
    Likes (Given)
    2486
    Likes (Received)
    10108
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    12
    Mentioned
    373 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475529

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Good question Russ, but....HOW DO WE KNOW OBAMA DIDN'T???

    Seeing that GROUND in plywood made me think. That electrician was so dumb, he thought the WOOD from the TREE, was still in the ground. Wonderful RED NECK, LIBERAL THINKING AT WORK???
    I have to admit ... 17 years as a commercial electrician and I've NEVER seen anything this dumb. And trust me, I've seen some DIY "stuff". Give "dad" the DIY Home Depot "Wiring 1-2-3' book and a screwdriver. Kept US in business.
    Last edited by Gunny; 06-04-2017 at 07:54 AM.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Wasilla, Alaska
    Posts
    13,992
    Thanks (Given)
    8494
    Thanks (Received)
    15312
    Likes (Given)
    3307
    Likes (Received)
    3837
    Piss Off (Given)
    27
    Piss Off (Received)
    4
    Mentioned
    201 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475186

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Russ View Post
    So this electrician thinks that plywood is a conductor? Or does he think it counts as 'ground'?
    I'm actually kind of surprised that Obama didn't nominate this electrician to be his Secretary of Energy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    One would assume he thinks it's a ground. Can't think of anything else you conduct to a screw .
    Yeah, that green 6 gauge cable is supposed to ground the breaker panel chassis - but of course, it is doing absolutely nothing by being screwed into the non-conductive plywood floor. Even if it were a steel floor - which it is most certainly not - electrifying that under your feet is a Real Bad Idea. This cable should have gone directly to the main ground bar and it's mind boggling that anyone would even consider doing something like this.

    The only explanation for this is that this guy knows absolutely nothing about electricity and is a severe menace to himself and everyone around him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I have to admit ... 17 years as a commercial electrician and I've NEVER seen anything this dumb. And trust me, I've seen some DIY "stuff". Give "dad" the DIY Home Depot "Wiring 1-2-3' book and a screwdriver. Kept US in business.
    Yesterday at another site we found the exact same thing done by this guy - another breaker panel "grounded" to the plywood floor with a 1" screw.

    This is just one of literally hundreds of examples of lack of professionalism and outright stupidity I found - others were much worse.

    I took 491 pictures over the last 3 days, and only half were of wildlife and scenery - the other half were documenting & troubleshooting what this particular clown has done to a $40 million communications system. It's a wonder that it works at all, to be honest.

    Monday is going to be a Real Bad Day for this guy when my partner goes in and gives a Power Point presentation on our analysis to the CFO, CEO and COO of this company. They just spent a bunch of money for us to do that analysis for them and they're not going to like the price tag it'll take to rectify things. It's going to be a good summer.
    Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    The Republic of Texas
    Posts
    48,139
    Thanks (Given)
    34530
    Thanks (Received)
    26620
    Likes (Given)
    2486
    Likes (Received)
    10108
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    12
    Mentioned
    373 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475529

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Yeah, that green 6 gauge cable is supposed to ground the breaker panel chassis - but of course, it is doing absolutely nothing by being screwed into the non-conductive plywood floor. Even if it were a steel floor - which it is most certainly not - electrifying that under your feet is a Real Bad Idea. This cable should have gone directly to the main ground bar and it's mind boggling that anyone would even consider doing something like this.

    The only explanation for this is that this guy knows absolutely nothing about electricity and is a severe menace to himself and everyone around him.



    Yesterday at another site we found the exact same thing done by this guy - another breaker panel "grounded" to the plywood floor with a 1" screw.

    This is just one of literally hundreds of examples of lack of professionalism and outright stupidity I found - others were much worse.

    I took 491 pictures over the last 3 days, and only half were of wildlife and scenery - the other half were documenting & troubleshooting what this particular clown has done to a $40 million communications system. It's a wonder that it works at all, to be honest.

    Monday is going to be a Real Bad Day for this guy when my partner goes in and gives a Power Point presentation on our analysis to the CFO, CEO and COO of this company. They just spent a bunch of money for us to do that analysis for them and they're not going to like the price tag it'll take to rectify things. It's going to be a good summer.
    Feel free to quote me. My responses are right out of the National Electrical Code. Chapter 2. Article 250 is the Bible on grounding and bonding.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Wasilla, Alaska
    Posts
    13,992
    Thanks (Given)
    8494
    Thanks (Received)
    15312
    Likes (Given)
    3307
    Likes (Received)
    3837
    Piss Off (Given)
    27
    Piss Off (Received)
    4
    Mentioned
    201 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475186

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Feel free to quote me. My responses are right out of the National Electrical Code. Chapter 2. Article 250 is the Bible on grounding and bonding.
    Oh, believe me, buddy... I have a couple copies of NEC and one stays in my clipboard. There's been a couple of times I didn't & got confronted with a weird question, though, and that's when I'll call someone who does and they will look it up for me. But on this stuff, I know it by heart.

    Here's another one for you :



    No inspection window to verify full penetration of copper into the lug.

    Lug was previously a 2-hole, but cut down to a 1-hole - goodbye, UL listing! Goodbye, zinc coating! Hello, unmitigated corrosion!

    Zero No-Ox was applied. This would have corroded like hell even without the lug modification, especially when you consider this is about 200 yards away from the Pacific Ocean.


    And this is a brand-new building, not even in service yet, so the excuse can't be made that you were "Getting It Done" to bring back the network in an emergency. I've been on a mountain top many times and had to do stuff like this to bring back a network that had gotten knocked down - but it was quickly brought back up to Code on the very next trip when I had the proper materials. This crap is just plain inexcusable.

    He didn't even have the decency to file that lug down after whacking it with his Nines.
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Last edited by NightTrain; 06-04-2017 at 07:40 PM.
    Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    576
    Thanks (Given)
    96
    Thanks (Received)
    94
    Likes (Given)
    85
    Likes (Received)
    20
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    5 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    that stuff is code in tijuana where the electrician who installed that was trained

    they have a great electrical trade school in tijuana with donkey shows at recess

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Debate Policy - Political Forums