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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Enter the "ruthless" ...
    The ONLY thing that has ever stopped Islam from spreading is brute force. Nothing else has worked. They've been at it since Xerxes was ruler of Persia. Gloss it over in the name of Allah but it's the same people doing the same thing. Lots of people needlessly die before anyone does anything to stop them.
    they've claimed that they were going to "rule the world" since Xerxes and it still hasn't happened.
    there are Billions of muslims in the world now.
    some living in our neighborhood probably but somehow there's peace with most of them.
    If we're being objective, and not looking for a new boggieman after the cold war, those facts will matter in how we deal with "islam" as well.



    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    The world is his for now. That should led be obvious just by watching the news.
    it's his but he's on leash Abbey, God's not sleeping. When i look at the world I can see God's hand as well. can't you?
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    Get rid of Sharia and a big portion of what's wrong with Islam is gone. While the group that organized last week's marches was not my cup of tea, the idea is right. If Sharia isn't the goal, violence goes way down.


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    VIDEO: Is Radical Islam in Decline?

    September 7, 2016 at 12:30 pm
    Last edited by revelarts; 06-14-2017 at 07:53 AM.
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    ...A new study says that Islam will pass Christianity as the world’s largest religion by 2070.
    The report says that in 2050, Muslims will make up 10% of the European population. But they will number only 2.1% in the United States.
    Interestingly, the study also says that the number of atheists and non-religious affiliated will decline globally.
    This may very well be, but, like many statistical studies, it is mainly just an extrapolation of current numbers over time. Muslims have a higher birth rate than Christians do, so if we graph that out, their numbers will be higher by 2070.
    Other scenarios are not factored in.
    For example, what if some of the 10% of the European population that has an Islamic heritage convert to Christianity, now that they can be exposed to it? That may depend on Christianity reviving in Europe, but that is not outside the possibility of the grace of God. Or what if the brutality of ISIS and the Islamic terrorism that is rampant in the Middle East creates a reaction against the religion? Or what if the Westernization of Islamic countries creates a decline in the birth rate? Or what if the Christian birth rate shoots up?
    Lots of things can happen, there being many more variables and unpredictabilities in life than a single statistical trend....
    And I have to ask how many Muslims are Muslims in name only out of FEAR, and social pressure.
    I've met Muslims that are practical atheist/agnostics when they talk to me but when around their faithful Muslim "brothers" can talk the Muslim talk as if it's 2nd nature.

    Predicting the future is no easy thing.
    but it seems to me Islam's "growth" is not a guarantee.
    the number of children of those that are truly faithful is the best hope it has.

    One thing's for sure God is not going to let Islam grow any farther than HE wills.
    And he's not a promoter of false prophets.
    It's been limited to the M.E. mostly for the past thousand years for a reason.
    And now the world has gotten a better look at it, and it's not a pretty or a image that invites new converts.
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    ..Fertility, Faith, and the Decline of Islam: Strategic Implications
    BY DAVID P. GOLDMAN FEBRUARY 11, 2013
    The liberal establishment has finally taken note of the elephant in the Muslim parlor, namely the closing of the Muslim womb. A year after the American Enterprise Institute's Nicholas Eberstadt reported the precipitous fall in Muslim fertility in a widely commented paper, and seven years after I reported the trend and its strategic implications at Asia Times, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius reports wide-eyed on Eberstadt's findings:

    The Arab world may be experiencing a youth bulge now, fueling popular uprisings in Tunisia, Egypt and elsewhere. But as Eberstadt notes, what’s ahead over the next generation will probably be declines in the number of working-age adults and rapidly aging populations. The Arab countries are now struggling with what Eberstadt calls their “youthquake.” But the coming dilemma, he notes, is “how these societies will meet the needs of their graying populations on relatively low income levels.”
    Why does Ignatius suddenly find this important? Perhaps the frustration of the establishment's hopes for the Arab world in the form of state failure in Syria and Egypt and Libya (and perhaps also Tunisia) has provoked an interest in deeper causes. Both the liberal establishment as well as the Republican mainstream embraced the Arab Spring, but now recoil in horror from the consequences.

    The evidence has been there for years in the United Nations database. In September 2006 I warned that the Muslim world was heading towards a demographic catastrophe.

    By 2050, elderly dependents will comprise nearly a third of the population of some Muslim nations, notably Iran -- converging on America's dependency ratio at mid-century. But it is one thing to face such a problem with America's per capita gross domestic product (GDP) of $40,000, and quite another to face it with Iran's per capita GDP of $7,000 -- especially given that Iran will stop exporting oil before the population crisis hits. The industrial nations face the prospective failure of their pension systems. But what will happen to countries that have no pension system, where traditional society assumes the care of the aged and infirm? In these cases it is traditional society that will break down, horribly and irretrievably so.
    My 2011 book How Civilizations Die (and Why Islam is Dying, Too) assembled evidence that the decline of Islam as a religion explained collapsing fertility, just as the decline of Catholicism explained collapsing fertility in lands once blessed by large families -- Spain, Italy, Poland, Ireland, and Quebec. Iran's total fertility rate plunged to an estimated 1.6% in 2010, barely above Europe's rate of 1.5 children per female. In 1979, when the Islamists took power in Iran, the average woman bore seven children. Nothing like this sudden snapping shut of the national womb has ever happened before in all of history. And the rest of the Muslim world is headed in the same direction.

    “Something really big is under way -- and practically no one has noticed it, even in the Arab world,” Ignatius quotes an e-mail from Eberstadt, one of the best conservative economists working today. But I don't think it is quite accurate to say that "practically no one has noticed it." On the contrary, Islamist leaders like Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Turkey's Recep Tayyip Erdogan have been shouting from the rooftops about the trend for the past five years, as my book reports. Excluding the independence-hungry Kurdish minority, Turkey's fertility rate is probably around 1.5 children per female, about the same as Iran's, and a guarantee of national decline.
    https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2013/2/...-implications/
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    they've claimed that they were going to "rule the world" since Xerxes and it still hasn't happened.
    there are Billions of muslims in the world now.
    some living in our neighborhood probably but somehow there's peace with most of them.
    If we're being objective, and not looking for a new boggieman after the cold war, those facts will matter in how we deal with "islam" as well.




    it's his but he's on leash Abbey, God's not sleeping. When i look at the world I can see God's hand as well. can't you?
    your response ignored the elephant in the room, as usual. They haven't been able to rule the word because THEY HSVE BEEN STOPPED. BY FORCE. And not the force of words they don't listen to any-damned way.

    God helps those that help themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    your response ignored the elephant in the room, as usual. They haven't been able to rule the word because THEY HSVE BEEN STOPPED. BY FORCE. And not the force of words they don't listen to any-damned way.

    God helps those that help themselves.
    That glaring truth, seems to be ignored most of the time--as only violence and superior force stopped them every time.
    Prayers, appeasement, wishful thinking and head in the sand did not do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And those failing things (minus the prayer part) are what the left/libs/socialists and dems demand we do...

    As absolute unmerciful savages they only respond to superior brute force!
    History proves that and such can not be denied....
    Kill them, defeat them --only that stops (temporarily) their evil advance. A fact..
    All other avenues are recipes for absolute defeat and destruction, which is why they and their allies demand those other totally worthless avenues be pursued..-Tyr
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