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    Default US Navy F/A - 18 Shoots Down Syrian Su-22 Fighter Jet

    It seems Assad needed another reminder to behave.

    Apparently, our commanders warned the Syrians to stop attacking our friendlies on the ground, that didn't happen - so a Super Hornet was given the green light to blow the offending Su-22 out of the sky.

    This is sure to prompt some harsh rhetoric from Putin & Co.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06...er-forces.html
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    Just a few weeks ago the US attacked some of their light artillery when they came too close to US positions.

    I'm getting some 'World Police' vibes going on here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Just a few weeks ago the US attacked some of their light artillery when they came too close to US positions.

    I'm getting some 'World Police' vibes going on here.
    How so? We were already there, already supporting these folks, and everyone involved knew about it. And Syria took their chances and bombed them anyway, which is bombing our "ally" AND while we are currently there. It's not like we decided out of the blue to go across the world to respond to an incident as the "worlds police". We were there already, and rightfully so. And we shot down this jet, and rightfully so. I don't see how someone bombing us or our allied fighting partners - and a single response meaning we are acting as the worlds police.

    IMO, I think they should be doing more. Not to Syrian jets of course, but more involvement in bombing ISIS and more involvement in helping those very other folks that are also fighting ISIS.
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    WE FIGHT ISIS IN SYRIA, AND NOW WE FIGHT ASSAD FORCES THAT ALSO FIGHT ISIS IN SYRIA.
    Now it does not take a rocket scientist see something is bad wrong with this damn picture..
    This is Trump continuing on with the obama strategy here-- And that ffking obama strategy was designed to help only Islam AND ISIS!!!!
    Folks, something is far, far amiss in what is going on.I've spent 50 years studying history, wars , generals, battles, empires and I tell you this is madness, some kind of insanity or something deeply hidden and devious going on.

    One can not win in the long run by such insanity..
    Something is far far, amiss....
    Trump had better pull his head out of his ass and soon.
    Somebody is giving him some extremely bad advice on military matters..
    And could be doing so to destroy him as the primary goal.-- -Tyr
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    AP: Russia says it will treat US-led coalition planes in Syria, west of the Euphrates, as targets after US downed Syrian jet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    AP: Russia says it will treat US-led coalition planes in Syria, west of the Euphrates, as targets after US downed Syrian jet.
    Thanks for the warning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    AP: Russia says it will treat US-led coalition planes in Syria, west of the Euphrates, as targets after US downed Syrian jet.

    Yes the reminder from Russia again...lets see what happens....



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    Default One wonders if US wars lead to terrorism, refugees, debt, and tyranny.

    One wonders if US wars lead to terrorism, refugees, debt, and tyranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debater View Post
    One wonders if US wars lead to terrorism, refugees, debt, and tyranny.


    One wonders how seriously the Ignorance of "yes we can" Liberalism has helped America `threatening` enemies get stronger....dangerous refugees and debt go hand in hand with open border infestation......brought to the world by the stupidity of Liberalism...



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    Default War

    The USA is now bankrupt warmongering police state. The elites control the government, media, and the corporations.


    Americans either are ignoring the decay of the US or think that nothing can be done to stop the collapse.

    We sit at our keyboards and scream at our computers, but feel powerless to do anything about the decline. The struggle is immense and too much damage has been done to save the US.


    Even if we spent a year to fight to repeal mandatory helmet laws, new nanny state laws banning vaping, smoking, and hoverboards would be enacted.


    What can you do?


    We could protest and be arrested or killed.


    We could use our guns and be killed.


    We have the NSA wiretapping our phones, listening to our words, reading our emails, and recording our web history. The NSA has our pictures, knows our address, Social Security numbers, phone numbers, purchases, current location, plans, doctors, lawyers, and what we had for dinner yesterday.


    There really is no hope.

    The best we can do now is to just prepare, dropout, don't comply, don't consent, don't participate, don't vote, don't buy licenses, don't pay taxes, don't call the police, don't deal with the government, stop supporting this rigged system, and spread the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debater View Post
    The USA is now bankrupt warmongering police state. The elites control the government, media, and the corporations.


    Americans either are ignoring the decay of the US or think that nothing can be done to stop the collapse.

    We sit at our keyboards and scream at our computers, but feel powerless to do anything about the decline. The struggle is immense and too much damage has been done to save the US.


    Even if we spent a year to fight to repeal mandatory helmet laws, new nanny state laws banning vaping, smoking, and hoverboards would be enacted.


    What can you do?


    We could protest and be arrested or killed.


    We could use our guns and be killed.


    We have the NSA wiretapping our phones, listening to our words, reading our emails, and recording our web history. The NSA has our pictures, knows our address, Social Security numbers, phone numbers, purchases, current location, plans, doctors, lawyers, and what we had for dinner yesterday.


    There really is no hope.

    The best we can do now is to just prepare, dropout, don't comply, don't consent, don't participate, don't vote, don't buy licenses, don't pay taxes, don't call the police, don't deal with the government, stop supporting this rigged system, and spread the word.
    ............. ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by debater View Post
    The USA is now bankrupt warmongering police state. The elites control the government, media, and the corporations.


    Americans either are ignoring the decay of the US or think that nothing can be done to stop the collapse.

    We sit at our keyboards and scream at our computers, but feel powerless to do anything about the decline. The struggle is immense and too much damage has been done to save the US.


    Even if we spent a year to fight to repeal mandatory helmet laws, new nanny state laws banning vaping, smoking, and hoverboards would be enacted.


    What can you do?


    We could protest and be arrested or killed.


    We could use our guns and be killed.


    We have the NSA wiretapping our phones, listening to our words, reading our emails, and recording our web history. The NSA has our pictures, knows our address, Social Security numbers, phone numbers, purchases, current location, plans, doctors, lawyers, and what we had for dinner yesterday.


    There really is no hope.

    The best we can do now is to just prepare, dropout, don't comply, don't consent, don't participate, don't vote, don't buy licenses, don't pay taxes, don't call the police, don't deal with the government, stop supporting this rigged system, and spread the word.
    You going to post the same thing EVERY thread? think we got the idea 3-4 posts ago. Do you move on with your theory? Or just repeat it?

    If it's the latter, I can help you keep track of it all by putting it in one place for you. Ever helpful, that's me .
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    It seems Assad needed another reminder to behave.

    Apparently, our commanders warned the Syrians to stop attacking our friendlies on the ground, that didn't happen - so a Super Hornet was given the green light to blow the offending Su-22 out of the sky.

    This is sure to prompt some harsh rhetoric from Putin & Co.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06...er-forces.html
    That's what I'm seeing. Assad, Russia and all involved forces were aware of where everyone was. And then a warning was even given. And of course that was ignored.

    And who knows if any US troops, volunteers or special forces or whomever may be on the ground assisting or whatever.

    They're fine in stating that the US shouldn't go past such and such point/river. They should ALL be in communications and work together if fighting ISIS. And they were. Then the attacks, then a warning, then continued attacks.

    I don't see what the alternative was? We make them aware of locations, they even call on a special line to heighten awareness and give them a warning, and it appears it was ignored. NO WAY, IMO, should the US at that point allow any ground troops, even if "just" allies, to be bombed and killed without protection.
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    The threat of direct Russian-American confrontation in Syria escalated on Monday after Moscow said it would treat any plane from the US-led coalition flying west of the Euphrates river as a potential target.

    Russia’s deputy foreign minister, Sergei Ryabkov, said the US strike “has to be seen as a continuation of America’s line to disregard the norms of international law.

    “What is this if not an act of aggression? It is, if you like, help to those terrorists that the US is fighting against, declaring they are carrying out an anti-terrorism policy.”
    Next move belongs to Herr Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Next move belongs to Herr Trump.
    I think he already made his. All kinds of things stupid about this. The first being as I said .. thanks for the warning. Second, Russian pilots can't compete with US pilots.

    The next move is Putin's. Trump made his. US fighters shot down a SYRIAN fighter. Putin going to up that ante and fire on a US plane?
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