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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    I'm intensely curious as to this, myself.
    I don't think our Warrior is here to face hard truths...
    After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown

    For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. Psalm 139:13

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    What a load of dishonest pork rendering. Practicing a little "taquiyya" now are we?

    Quote Originally Posted by Great warrior View Post
    Due to lack of knowledge of basics of Islam among Polytheists, they tend to believe hate sites because they give them false feeling of satisfaction and justification fortheir own crimes.

    "Liar" Islamophobes usually tell their blind followers that the word "Taqiya" means "to lie to non-Muslim". However, "Telling the truth" is a basic Islamic rule;

    “And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). (Qur’an, 2:42)”

    “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For justice, as witnesses To Allah, even as against Yourselves, or your parents, Or your kin, and whether It be (against) rich or poor: For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (Of your hearts), lest ye Swerve, and if ye Distort (justice) or decline To do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (Qur’an, 4:135)”

    “...Help ye one another In righteousness and piety, But help ye not one another In sin and rancour: Fear Allah: for Allah Is strict in punishment. (Qur’an, 5:2)”

    “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For Allah, as witnesses To fair dealing, and let not The hatred of others To you make you swerve To wrong and depart from Justice. Be just: that is Next to Piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (Qur’an, 5:8)”

    “O you who believe, you shall reverence GOD, and be among the truthful.” (Qur’an 9:119)
    Kid's Corner: Telling the Truth

    The only ayah that allow muslims to utter disbelief to save their lives is Quran 16:106:
    "Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief… except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment."

    This ayah was revealed because some Muslims (Companions of Prophet Muhammad (p)) were tortured and uttered disbelief so that the persecutors stopped tormenting them. Although they uttered the words, they still believed in Islam, and merely said it so the persecution stops. Hence, the Quran states that those who had done such, there is no blame on them for what they did, and said these things when they were in a situation where it meant either to live and continually be under torture or be put to death. So, there was no sin on those who said things which were contrary to what they believed in their heart.

    So, What's "Taqiyya" ?

    This word itself 'taqiyya" doesn't exist in the quran. Taqiyya is a doctrine that developed in Shi’ism. Based on this belief, Shi’ites could pretend to be Sunnis in order to avoid torture and death. In other words, if a Sunni tyrant threatened to kill a Shi’ite, that Shi’ite could claim to be a pious Sunni and thereby save his life.

    According to Encyclopedia Britannica

    "Taqiyyah, in Islam, the practice of concealing one’s belief and foregoing ordinary religious duties when under threat of death or injury. Derived from the Arabic word waqa (“to shield oneself”), taqiyyah defies easy translation. English renderings such as “precautionary dissimulation” or “prudent fear” partly convey the term’s meaning of self-protection in the face of danger to oneself or, by extension and depending upon the circumstances, to one’s fellow Muslims. Thus, taqiyyah may be used for either the protection of an individual or the protection of a community. Moreover, it is not used or even interpreted in the same way by every sect of Islam. Taqiyyah has been employed by the Shīʿites, the largest minority sect of Islam, because of their historical persecution and political defeats not only by non-Muslims but also at the hands of the majority Sunni sect. ... According to scholarly and judicial consensus, it is not justified by the threat of flogging, temporary imprisonment, or other relatively tolerable punishments. The danger to the believer must be unavoidable."

    So, the general rule is that a Muslim must always speak the truth even if it goes against himself, his family, or his community.

    Muslims think that dropping nuclear bombs on other nations is an act of terrorism and every American should publicly condemn it, otherwise he would be no different from the blood-thirsty Crusaders.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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