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    Default Myth: Quran orders Muslims to lie to Polytheists "Taqiya" !!!

    Due to lack of knowledge of basics of Islam among Polytheists, they tend to believe hate sites because they give them false feeling of satisfaction and justification fortheir own crimes.

    "Liar" Islamophobes usually tell their blind followers that the word "Taqiya" means "to lie to non-Muslim". However, "Telling the truth" is a basic Islamic rule;



    “And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). (Qur’an, 2:42)”

    “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For justice, as witnesses To Allah, even as against Yourselves, or your parents, Or your kin, and whether It be (against) rich or poor: For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (Of your hearts), lest ye Swerve, and if ye Distort (justice) or decline To do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (Qur’an, 4:135)”

    “...Help ye one another In righteousness and piety, But help ye not one another In sin and rancour: Fear Allah: for Allah Is strict in punishment. (Qur’an, 5:2)”

    “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For Allah, as witnesses To fair dealing, and let not The hatred of others To you make you swerve To wrong and depart from Justice. Be just: that is Next to Piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (Qur’an, 5:8)”

    “O you who believe, you shall reverence GOD, and be among the truthful.” (Qur’an 9:119)
    Kid's Corner: Telling the Truth

    The only ayah that allow muslims to utter disbelief to save their lives is Quran 16:106:
    "Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief… except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment."

    This ayah was revealed because some Muslims (Companions of Prophet Muhammad (p)) were tortured and uttered disbelief so that the persecutors stopped tormenting them. Although they uttered the words, they still believed in Islam, and merely said it so the persecution stops. Hence, the Quran states that those who had done such, there is no blame on them for what they did, and said these things when they were in a situation where it meant either to live and continually be under torture or be put to death. So, there was no sin on those who said things which were contrary to what they believed in their heart.



    So, What's "Taqiyya" ?

    This word itself 'taqiyya" doesn't exist in the quran. Taqiyya is a doctrine that developed in Shi’ism. Based on this belief, Shi’ites could pretend to be Sunnis in order to avoid torture and death. In other words, if a Sunni tyrant threatened to kill a Shi’ite, that Shi’ite could claim to be a pious Sunni and thereby save his life.

    According to Encyclopedia Britannica

    "Taqiyyah, in Islam, the practice of concealing one’s belief and foregoing ordinary religious duties when under threat of death or injury. Derived from the Arabic word waqa (“to shield oneself”), taqiyyah defies easy translation. English renderings such as “precautionary dissimulation” or “prudent fear” partly convey the term’s meaning of self-protection in the face of danger to oneself or, by extension and depending upon the circumstances, to one’s fellow Muslims. Thus, taqiyyah may be used for either the protection of an individual or the protection of a community. Moreover, it is not used or even interpreted in the same way by every sect of Islam. Taqiyyah has been employed by the Shīʿites, the largest minority sect of Islam, because of their historical persecution and political defeats not only by non-Muslims but also at the hands of the majority Sunni sect. ... According to scholarly and judicial consensus, it is not justified by the threat of flogging, temporary imprisonment, or other relatively tolerable punishments. The danger to the believer must be unavoidable."

    So, the general rule is that a Muslim must always speak the truth even if it goes against himself, his family, or his community.

    Muslims think that dropping nuclear bombs on other nations is an act of terrorism and every American should publicly condemn it, otherwise he would be no different from the blood-thirsty Crusaders.
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    18 :Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs. And yours will be woe for that which ye ascribe (unto Him).
    19 :To Him belongs whoever is in the heavens and the earth. And those near Him are not prevented by arrogance from His worship, nor do they tire.

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    So, what do you think the solution to the worldwide muslim terrorist problem is?
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    So the bottom line is not what's written in the Quran. The actual instructions written in the book don't matter at all. The problem is foolish, mentally-bankrupt, idiots who use whatever source they want as an excuse to kill people.

    Changing what's taught in their holy book won't change their bloodlust.

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    So, Great Warrior, ponder this truth:

    People of other faiths would put their very lives in danger writing about their beliefs in a Muslim country. Yet you come here and take advantage of our Judeo-Christian freedoms without fear of reprisal.

    Which in a nutshell shows why no one is buying your pro-Muslim "religion of peace" claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Great warrior View Post
    Due to lack of knowledge of basics of Islam among Polytheists, they tend to believe hate sites because they give them false feeling of satisfaction and justification fortheir own crimes.

    "Liar" Islamophobes usually tell their blind followers that the word "Taqiya" means "to lie to non-Muslim". However, "Telling the truth" is a basic Islamic rule;



    “And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). (Qur’an, 2:42)”

    “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For justice, as witnesses To Allah, even as against Yourselves, or your parents, Or your kin, and whether It be (against) rich or poor: For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (Of your hearts), lest ye Swerve, and if ye Distort (justice) or decline To do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (Qur’an, 4:135)”

    “...Help ye one another In righteousness and piety, But help ye not one another In sin and rancour: Fear Allah: for Allah Is strict in punishment. (Qur’an, 5:2)”

    “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For Allah, as witnesses To fair dealing, and let not The hatred of others To you make you swerve To wrong and depart from Justice. Be just: that is Next to Piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (Qur’an, 5:8)”

    “O you who believe, you shall reverence GOD, and be among the truthful.” (Qur’an 9:119)
    Kid's Corner: Telling the Truth

    The only ayah that allow muslims to utter disbelief to save their lives is Quran 16:106:
    "Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief… except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment."

    This ayah was revealed because some Muslims (Companions of Prophet Muhammad (p)) were tortured and uttered disbelief so that the persecutors stopped tormenting them. Although they uttered the words, they still believed in Islam, and merely said it so the persecution stops. Hence, the Quran states that those who had done such, there is no blame on them for what they did, and said these things when they were in a situation where it meant either to live and continually be under torture or be put to death. So, there was no sin on those who said things which were contrary to what they believed in their heart.



    So, What's "Taqiyya" ?

    This word itself 'taqiyya" doesn't exist in the quran. Taqiyya is a doctrine that developed in Shi’ism. Based on this belief, Shi’ites could pretend to be Sunnis in order to avoid torture and death. In other words, if a Sunni tyrant threatened to kill a Shi’ite, that Shi’ite could claim to be a pious Sunni and thereby save his life.

    According to Encyclopedia Britannica

    "Taqiyyah, in Islam, the practice of concealing one’s belief and foregoing ordinary religious duties when under threat of death or injury. Derived from the Arabic word waqa (“to shield oneself”), taqiyyah defies easy translation. English renderings such as “precautionary dissimulation” or “prudent fear” partly convey the term’s meaning of self-protection in the face of danger to oneself or, by extension and depending upon the circumstances, to one’s fellow Muslims. Thus, taqiyyah may be used for either the protection of an individual or the protection of a community. Moreover, it is not used or even interpreted in the same way by every sect of Islam. Taqiyyah has been employed by the Shīʿites, the largest minority sect of Islam, because of their historical persecution and political defeats not only by non-Muslims but also at the hands of the majority Sunni sect. ... According to scholarly and judicial consensus, it is not justified by the threat of flogging, temporary imprisonment, or other relatively tolerable punishments. The danger to the believer must be unavoidable."

    So, the general rule is that a Muslim must always speak the truth even if it goes against himself, his family, or his community.

    Muslims think that dropping nuclear bombs on other nations is an act of terrorism and every American should publicly condemn it, otherwise he would be no different from the blood-thirsty Crusaders.
    In summary, it is OK to lie to save your own ass. Got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great warrior View Post
    Due to lack of knowledge of basics of Islam among Polytheists, they tend to believe hate sites because they give them false feeling of satisfaction and justification fortheir own crimes.

    "Liar" Islamophobes usually tell their blind followers that the word "Taqiya" means "to lie to non-Muslim". However, "Telling the truth" is a basic Islamic rule;



    “And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). (Qur’an, 2:42)”

    “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For justice, as witnesses To Allah, even as against Yourselves, or your parents, Or your kin, and whether It be (against) rich or poor: For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (Of your hearts), lest ye Swerve, and if ye Distort (justice) or decline To do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (Qur’an, 4:135)”

    “...Help ye one another In righteousness and piety, But help ye not one another In sin and rancour: Fear Allah: for Allah Is strict in punishment. (Qur’an, 5:2)”

    “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For Allah, as witnesses To fair dealing, and let not The hatred of others To you make you swerve To wrong and depart from Justice. Be just: that is Next to Piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (Qur’an, 5:8)”

    “O you who believe, you shall reverence GOD, and be among the truthful.” (Qur’an 9:119)
    Kid's Corner: Telling the Truth

    The only ayah that allow muslims to utter disbelief to save their lives is Quran 16:106:
    "Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief… except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment."

    This ayah was revealed because some Muslims (Companions of Prophet Muhammad (p)) were tortured and uttered disbelief so that the persecutors stopped tormenting them. Although they uttered the words, they still believed in Islam, and merely said it so the persecution stops. Hence, the Quran states that those who had done such, there is no blame on them for what they did, and said these things when they were in a situation where it meant either to live and continually be under torture or be put to death. So, there was no sin on those who said things which were contrary to what they believed in their heart.



    So, What's "Taqiyya" ?

    This word itself 'taqiyya" doesn't exist in the quran. Taqiyya is a doctrine that developed in Shi’ism. Based on this belief, Shi’ites could pretend to be Sunnis in order to avoid torture and death. In other words, if a Sunni tyrant threatened to kill a Shi’ite, that Shi’ite could claim to be a pious Sunni and thereby save his life.

    According to Encyclopedia Britannica

    "Taqiyyah, in Islam, the practice of concealing one’s belief and foregoing ordinary religious duties when under threat of death or injury. Derived from the Arabic word waqa (“to shield oneself”), taqiyyah defies easy translation. English renderings such as “precautionary dissimulation” or “prudent fear” partly convey the term’s meaning of self-protection in the face of danger to oneself or, by extension and depending upon the circumstances, to one’s fellow Muslims. Thus, taqiyyah may be used for either the protection of an individual or the protection of a community. Moreover, it is not used or even interpreted in the same way by every sect of Islam. Taqiyyah has been employed by the Shīʿites, the largest minority sect of Islam, because of their historical persecution and political defeats not only by non-Muslims but also at the hands of the majority Sunni sect. ... According to scholarly and judicial consensus, it is not justified by the threat of flogging, temporary imprisonment, or other relatively tolerable punishments. The danger to the believer must be unavoidable."

    So, the general rule is that a Muslim must always speak the truth even if it goes against himself, his family, or his community.

    Muslims think that dropping nuclear bombs on other nations is an act of terrorism and every American should publicly condemn it, otherwise he would be no different from the blood-thirsty Crusaders.
    Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers and Bring World Domination!
    By Don Boys, Ph.D.

    Published Nov 17, 2004
    KoranWithPrayerBeads

    al-Taqiyya:
    deception; the islamic word for concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies.

    It is impossible to understand Islam and Muslims by listening to their protestations against terror and their proclamations of patriotism for America. Usually, it is wise and fair to give people the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to national safety and the future of America, we had better look twice, even thrice at Muslim patriotism. Why? Because Islam permits lying! It is called “Al-taqiyya.” One Muslim said that Al-taqiyya means dissimulation then he expanded it to diplomacy but he should have gone further to deception. Now some Muslims who do not follow the Koran are as faithful Americans as any of us, but the problem is, we cannot know.

    Muslims lie not because they are liars by nature but by choice. Systematic lying as a religious policy is deadly, and if our politicians do not understand this, thousands could die.

    It seems our President and his advisors are clueless as to the desires, doctrines, and distinctives of Islam. While I feel a little audacious in giving advice to national leaders, it is necessary since no one else is doing it. Muslims lie not because they are liars by nature but by choice. Systematic lying as a religious policy is deadly, and if our politicians do not understand this, thousands could die.

    Muslims lie when it is in their interest to do so and “Allah” will not hold them accountable for lying when it is beneficial to the cause of Islam. They can lie without any guilt or fear of accountability or retribution. A lie in the defense of Islam is approved even applauded in their “holy” books.

    Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection. Muslims will tell you that concealment of a truth is not an abandonment of that truth if it benefits Islam.

    Mohammed gave permission for a follower to lie in order to kill a Jewish poet who had offended Mohammed. I could provide many examples of permissible lying from the Koran and Hadith and will do so when my critics accuse me of hatred and bigotry because of this column. My motives are not important but the truth is. However, many unprincipled people do not consider truth important. It is political correctness that sits on the throne to be worshiped.

    Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam. They have permission to lie. Yes, Christians have also lied but never are they given permission to lie. However, a Muslim has no guilt since the Koran and Hadith permit his deception.

    Muslims have no hope for eternal salvation without their good works, so they must keep working to advance Islam. If a few lies will accomplish that goal, then lying is not bad but good. If they can get good publicity for Islam by lying, then lying is acceptable, even desirable.

    They will lie to make Islam more attractive to potential converts as they speak of “no compulsion in religion” while all of them know that verse was abrogated by later verses. They will quote verses that speak of tolerance and kindness knowing that those verses were written when Mohammed was desirous of “tolerance and kindness,” but when he climbed into the catbird seat, everything changed and he became a terrorist.

    Islam Permits Lying to Deceive Unbelievers and Bring World Domination!
    By Don Boys, Ph.D.

    Published Nov 17, 2004
    KoranWithPrayerBeads

    al-Taqiyya:
    deception; the islamic word for concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies.

    It is impossible to understand Islam and Muslims by listening to their protestations against terror and their proclamations of patriotism for America. Usually, it is wise and fair to give people the benefit of the doubt but when it comes to national safety and the future of America, we had better look twice, even thrice at Muslim patriotism. Why? Because Islam permits lying! It is called “Al-taqiyya.” One Muslim said that Al-taqiyya means dissimulation then he expanded it to diplomacy but he should have gone further to deception. Now some Muslims who do not follow the Koran are as faithful Americans as any of us, but the problem is, we cannot know.

    Muslims lie not because they are liars by nature but by choice. Systematic lying as a religious policy is deadly, and if our politicians do not understand this, thousands could die.

    It seems our President and his advisors are clueless as to the desires, doctrines, and distinctives of Islam. While I feel a little audacious in giving advice to national leaders, it is necessary since no one else is doing it. Muslims lie not because they are liars by nature but by choice. Systematic lying as a religious policy is deadly, and if our politicians do not understand this, thousands could die.

    Muslims lie when it is in their interest to do so and “Allah” will not hold them accountable for lying when it is beneficial to the cause of Islam. They can lie without any guilt or fear of accountability or retribution. A lie in the defense of Islam is approved even applauded in their “holy” books.

    Muslims are permitted to lie: (1) to save their lives, (2) to reconcile a husband and wife, (3) to persuade a woman into a bedroom and (4) to facilitate one on his journey. Muslims are even permitted to disavow Islam and Mohammed if it is not a genuine heart-felt rejection. Muslims will tell you that concealment of a truth is not an abandonment of that truth if it benefits Islam.

    Mohammed gave permission for a follower to lie in order to kill a Jewish poet who had offended Mohammed. I could provide many examples of permissible lying from the Koran and Hadith and will do so when my critics accuse me of hatred and bigotry because of this column. My motives are not important but the truth is. However, many unprincipled people do not consider truth important. It is political correctness that sits on the throne to be worshiped.

    Muslims may appear very sincere; in fact, they are sincere, when they lie for their own protection or in the cause of Islam. They have permission to lie. Yes, Christians have also lied but never are they given permission to lie. However, a Muslim has no guilt since the Koran and Hadith permit his deception.

    Muslims have no hope for eternal salvation without their good works, so they must keep working to advance Islam. If a few lies will accomplish that goal, then lying is not bad but good. If they can get good publicity for Islam by lying, then lying is acceptable, even desirable.

    They will lie to make Islam more attractive to potential converts as they speak of “no compulsion in religion” while all of them know that verse was abrogated by later verses. They will quote verses that speak of tolerance and kindness knowing that those verses were written when Mohammed was desirous of “tolerance and kindness,” but when he climbed into the catbird seat, everything changed and he became a terrorist.

    ABOUT THE LIE THAT THE RADICALS IN ISLAM are only a tiny majority, it is a deliberate and massively promoted lie funded by Islamists across the world in various ways.
    It is the greatest practice of al-Taqiyya, second only to that great other lie-that Islam is a religion of Peace.

    al-Taqiyya, PERMITS LYING IN EVERY WAY/FORM IF THE GOAL IS ADVANCEMENT OF ISLAM AND ITS GOAL OF WORLD DOMINATION..

    Warrior , you practice al-Taqiyyath a smile as you come here to post your ffing lies and I see you that run away from my posts -yet again, proving what ffing cowards muslims are!
    Please say hello to your cowardly buddy Jafar for me. -Tyr
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    An Inquiry Into Islam

    A non-racist, unbigoted inquiry into the core teachings of Islam and what it all means (if anything) for non-Muslims

    What is Taqiyya?

    In several Quranic passages as well as the example of Muhammad, Muslims are encouraged to deceive non-Muslims when it will help protect Islam. It is known as the principle of "taqiyya" or "religious deception."

    This is less surprising if you first understand that in mainstream Islamic teachings, the world is divided into "the house of Islam" and "the house of war." That is, part of the world is Islamic and the other part has yet to brought into the light with Allah's holy law (Sharia).

    And since relations with the non-Islamic part of the world exists in a state of war, then deceit is an appropriate strategy, used by all military commanders since the beginning of warfare.

    As Raymond Ibrahim wrote, the Quranic verses 3:28 and 16:106, as well as Muhammad’s famous assertion, “War is deceit,” have all led to the formulation of a number of doctrines of "taqiyya.” And this is not an obscure point of theology. It is being practiced today by devout Muslims. See some examples of taqiyya caught on tape.

    In the book, Terrorist Hunter: The Extraordinary Story of a Woman Who Went Undercover to Infiltrate the Radical Islamic Groups Operating in America, Rita Katz wrote about being at an IAP conference in Chicago. IAP is the Islamic Association for Palestine. There were lots of booths at the conference for "charitable" organizations, and at one of these booths, Katz met a man she already knew about: Muhammad Salah. She pretended she didn't know who he was, and he introduced himself as a "Muslim human rights activist."

    Katz, a non-Muslim woman dressed as a Muslim, wrote, "He was small, thin, nearly bald. Totally harmless looking." He told her these conferences were so important because "we can teach you about the oppression and sufferings of Muslims in America and all over the world."

    Then he told Katz his story. He had been a Palestinian with an American citizenship, a used-car salesman, working in Chicago when he went to Israel to "visit family and friends." But in Israel he was arrested by the Israeli authorities and thrown into prison for five years!

    Katz looked appropriately appalled and asked why in heaven's name would they put him in prison? "Because the Israelis oppress innocent Palestinians," he said. "And do you know what is the most shocking part? When I returned to the U.S., after I was tortured and I thought I was going to die in that prison, the Americans placed me under investigation and froze my assets! Me, an innocent citizen, a car dealer, a family man, father of five!"

    To any other kafir this probably would have been a convincing story. The poor, oppressed Muslim! It's just wrong to treat people that way. Those Israelis must be very cruel. Those Americans are so oppressive to Muslims!

    But Katz was not an ordinary kafir. She researched people like Salah for a living. She knew all about him. This frail, innocent-looking man was the leader of the worldwide military wing of Hamas, a brutal terrorist organization! When he was arrested in Israel he had a hundred thousand dollars in cash on him. In his testimony, he admitted the money was supposed to go to "members of Hamas's military wing." He displayed detailed inside knowledge of Hamas's structure and funding, and his testimony was later used as evidence in the New York trial of Musa Abu Marzook, the leader of the political bureau of Hamas (and the man who had appointed Salah to his position as leader of the military wing). Katz writes:

    "Salah disclosed (in his testimony) that he'd been authorized by Marzook to recruit individuals for training in the uses of explosives to fight in the 'holy war.' In the United States, Salah began training ten such recruits, three of whom were chosen to carry out attacks. In addition to supervising the building of bombs, explosives, and remote detonation devices, Salah was instructed by Marzook to develop biological and chemical weapons for Hamas."
    When Nasser Hidmi was caught trying to detonate a bomb in Israel, he said he had been chosen by none other than the poor, innocent, abused, oppressed Muslim, Muhammad Salah.

    This is an example of the principle of religious deception in action.

    The use of taqiyya is the main reason most non-Muslims are so confused about the real nature of Islam — they are constantly being intentionally deceived by orthodox Muslims. But once you know about it, the jig is up. You are much less easily deceived.

    http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010...s-taqiyya.html

    Very eye opening: I normally don't post many videos, but this is 5 minutes of TRUTH and FACT - and it's this kind of TRUTH that gets folks using this taqiyya crap and lying to the world, as if we didn't see terror attack after terror attack after terror attack. Dead bodies never stop piling up. And then to see the enjoyment from them, pulling out beach chairs and dancing and enjoying "sweets" as they teach their little terrorists in waiting.

    ---

    "Those who dispute the book of scumbagAllah, are the enemies of ChildRapist_Allah"

    THE VIDEO below is a clip from the movie, Obsession. About halfway through the clip, you will see some great examples of taqiyya captured on film. Check it out:

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    Who ordered the 14 truckloads of crickets?
    And a tree fell on those trucks parked in the forest.....did you hear anything?

    Not I.

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    Said in the video, and I see this as 100% FACT. Very very rarely do you see actual muslims trying to be American and try to assimilate to our way of life. Some will claim so, as they wear garbage bags and refuse to let their wives drive or go get an education. Still speaking arabic and refusing to speak English. Basically living the exact life from wherever they claim to be "wanting to get away from" - and then acting exactly the same and even demanding that WE fit into THEIR lifestyle. FU Islam.

    This is FACT:

    "They are not trying to be a part of the American way of life. They are not trying to be part of our culture. They are here with an agenda to make Islam the law of the land."
    “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” ― Mahatma Gandhi

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    Some stuff right from Wiki, where the muzzie bastards can even update this disgusting crap.

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    Taqiya (Arabic: تقیة‎‎ taqiyyah, literally "prudence, fear")[1][2] is an Islamic term which refers to precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.[3][4][1][5] Another term for this concept, kitmān (lit. "action of covering, dissimulation"), has a more specific meaning of dissimulation by silence or omission.[6][7]

    This practice is emphasized in Shia Islam whereby adherents are permitted to conceal their religion when under threat of persecution or compulsion.[3][8] However, it is also permitted in Sunni Islam under certain circumstances.[9][10]

    Taqiyya was initially practiced under duress by some of Muhammad's Companions.[11] Later, it became particularly important for Shias due to their experience as a persecuted religious minority.[8][12] According to Shia doctrine, taqiyya is permissible in situations where there is overwhelming danger of loss of life or property and where no danger to religion would occur thereby.[8] Taqiyya has also been politically legitimised, particularly among Twelver Shias, in order to maintain unity among Muslims and fraternity among the Shia clerics.[13][14]

    Yarden Mariuma writes: "Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie. A concept whose meaning has varied significantly among Islamic sects, scholars, countries, and political regimes, it nevertheless is one of the key terms used by recent anti-Muslim polemicists."[15] Islamic scholars claim that taqiyya is only permissible under duress, and that the inflationary use of the term qualifies as "a staple of right-wing Islamophobia in North America" (Mohammad Fadel 2013), or "Taqiyya libel against Muslims"[16] while their critics accuse them of practicing "taqiyya about taqiyya" (Raymond Ibrahim, 2014).

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    Regarding 3:28, Ibn Kathir writes, "meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly." He quotes Muhammad's companion, Abu Ad-Darda', who said "we smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them," and Al-Hasan who said "the Tuqyah is acceptable till the Day of Resurrection."

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    More sickness:

    "If any one is compelled and professes unbelief with his tongue, while his heart contradicts him, in order to escape his enemies, no blame falls on him, because God takes his servants as their hearts believe."

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    Wow, rewards for people who choose death over apostasy? Sickos

    أجمعوا على أن من أكره على الكفر واختار القتل أنه أعظم أجرا عند الله ممن اختار الرخصة ، وأما غير الكفر فإن أكره على أكل الخنزير وشرب الخمر مثلا فالفعل أولى

    Which translates to:

    There is a consensus that whomsoever is forced into apostasy and chooses death has a greater reward than a person who takes the license [to deny one's faith under duress], but if a person is being forced to eat pork or drink wine, then they should do that [instead of choosing death].

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    Interesting. If it's all about Jihad, and danger and all of that other crap. Then why use it in politics?
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    In 2004, Lebanese Druze scholar Sami Makarem published the monograph Al Taqiyya Fi Al Islam ("Dissimulation in Islam"), arguing that the concept should be considered "mainstream" and ubiquitous in modern Islamic politics,

    "Taqiyya is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it. We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream...Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era." (p. 7, trans. Raymond Ibrahim).

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    Taqiyya is a concept and a reality that must be borne in mind when reading or listening to the words of Muslims.

    What is Taqiyya?

    Taqiyya (also spelled taqiya or taqiyyah) is lying to advance or protect Islam (taqiyya literally means "prevention"). Muslims justify taqiyya from the Quran, other Islamic texts, and the actions of Muhammad, including those below.

    It should be emphasized that while Iying is a cause for shame in the West, taqiyya isn't in Islam. To Muslims, taqiyya - Iying (to infidels) to advance and protect Islam - is both a virtue and a duty (there is shame, however, in being caught - watch the video below).

    So, when non-Muslims confront Muslims about facts that Muslims wish to hide (e.g., Hitler & Islam, Sharia Law, Errors in Quran, Halal, Allah Moon God, Taharrush, etc.), Muslims often Iie with a straight face, even on record and in front of other Muslims, who nod in agreement (see Muslim Brotherhood) to both approve of and to participate in taqiyya, as well as kitman - the related practice of telling half-truths - as Muhammad instructed:

    "The Apostle said...'Who will rid me of Ibnul Ashraf?' Muhammad bin Maslama, brother of the Bani Abdul-Ashaf, said, 'I will deal with him for you, O Apostle of Allah, I will kiII him.' [Muhammad] said, 'Do so if you can... All that is incumbent upon you is that you should try.' He said, 'O Apostle of Allah, we shall have to tell Iies.' He answered, 'Say what you like, for you are free in the matter.'" - Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad, page 307

    "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" - Volume 4, Book 52, Hadith 269

    "By Allah, and Allah willing, if I take an oath and later find something else that is better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath." - Volume 7, Book 67, Hadith 427

    "The believers never ally themselves with the disbelievers, instead of the believers. Whoever does this is exiled from Allah. Exempted are those who are forced to do this to avoid persecution." - Quran 3:28

    What about the Bible? Does it promote Iying or at least leave some room for it?

    The Bible and Jesus are unequivocal in condemning deceit. Jesus told us to never Iie, not even under duress (see Prophet Isa):

    "You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery,’ ‘Do not mцrcler,’ ‘Do not steal,’ ‘Do not bear false witness,’ ‘Honor your father and your mother.’" - Luke 18:20

    "For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, of him the Son of Man will be ashamed when He comes in His own glory, and in His Father’s, and of the holy angels." - Luke 9:26

    It should also be noted that Jesus identified the Satanic origin of Iying:

    "You are of your father the deviI, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a mцrclerer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a Iie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a Iiar and the father of it." - John 8:44

    Then where do we find the truth?

    "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." - John 14:6 (see True Gospel)

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    CAIR = HAMAS = CAIR = Origination = Hamas = Terrorists = why muslims won't call Hamas the terrorist scumbags they are

    CAIR Taqiyya - CAIR Florida President shows us how it's done.

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    'great warrior'...

    Will you admit that Hamas is a terrorist organization? Do you agree with Hamas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Said in the video, and I see this as 100% FACT. Very very rarely do you see actual muslims trying to be American and try to assimilate to our way of life. Some will claim so, as they wear garbage bags and refuse to let their wives drive or go get an education. Still speaking arabic and refusing to speak English. Basically living the exact life from wherever they claim to be "wanting to get away from" - and then acting exactly the same and even demanding that WE fit into THEIR lifestyle. FU Islam.

    This is FACT:

    "They are not trying to be a part of the American way of life. They are not trying to be part of our culture. They are here with an agenda to make Islam the law of the land."
    I used to be a manager at a distribution warehouse, and we had quite a few Somalians, who were Muslim.

    We had constant battles regarding their religious demands, especially during Ramadan.

    They expected complete acceptance of all of their religious demands - we capitulated more than we should have, but not 100%.

    Their demands far outstripped those of any other religion by far.

    Personally, they should have had little or no additional accommodations - they can walk if they don't like the work conditions.

    Quite a demanding and arrogant lot in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    'great warrior'...

    Will you admit that Hamas is a terrorist organization? Do you agree with Hamas?
    I'm intensely curious as to this, myself.
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