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    Default USS Fitzgerald Findings.

    They are saying that a whole Watch team lost "Situational Awareness"...

    Bullshit! That will work for one or two people, but not 12:

    http://www.secnav.navy.mil/foia/read...Fitzgerald.pdf

    That whole watch team was negligent.

    (Thanks to @Kaimhel for the link)
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    NOTICE HOW MUCH OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE REPORT WERE....

    REDACTED (blacked-out). Watch standers??? Cover up? YOU BET YOUR BIPPY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    NOTICE HOW MUCH OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF THE REPORT WERE....

    REDACTED (blacked-out). Watch standers??? Cover up? YOU BET YOUR BIPPY!

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    And the Command triad has been "fired"

    USS Fitzgerald (DDG-62) commander Cmdr. Bryce Benson, executive officer Cmdr. Sean Babbitt and command master chief CMC Brice Baldwin were removed from their positions by U.S. 7th Fleet commander Vice Adm. Joseph Aucoin this week based on the early results of several investigations into the June 17 collision between the destroyer and the merchant ship ACX Crystal, VCNO Adm. Bill Moran told reporters


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post
    And the Command triad has been "fired"

    USS Fitzgerald (DDG-62) commander Cmdr. Bryce Benson, executive officer Cmdr. Sean Babbitt and command master chief CMC Brice Baldwin were removed from their positions by U.S. 7th Fleet commander Vice Adm. Joseph Aucoin this week based on the early results of several investigations into the June 17 collision between the destroyer and the merchant ship ACX Crystal, VCNO Adm. Bill Moran told reporters



    Bilgerat. Actually. That is ALWAYS what happens after accidents at sea like this.
    For all of my years in the navy. I cannot remember ANY instance when this did not take place. It's standard Navy procedure...Honestly.
    In fact. During all my years in uniform. Whenever we learned of any kind of accident at sea, by any ship. The first words we normally heard were: "Well, there's another Captain who will NEVER become an Admiral." Collisions at sea are ALWAYS blamed on the CO. Because he Lost Control of his Ship, and placed it in Harms Way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Bilgerat. Actually. That is ALWAYS what happens after accidents at sea like this.
    For all of my years in the navy. I cannot remember ANY instance when this did not take place. It's standard Navy procedure...Honestly.
    In fact. During all my years in uniform. Whenever we learned of any kind of accident at sea, by any ship. The first words we normally heard were: "Well, there's another Captain who will NEVER become an Admiral." Collisions at sea are ALWAYS blamed on the CO. Because he Lost Control of his Ship, and placed it in Harms Way.

    I concur with the CO getting the chop. In fact after learning about this I said to the Lady, "well, that CO's career is done".

    But the fault didn't stop with the CO, the 7th Fleet Commander took out the XO AND the CMC. That makes me wonder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilgerat View Post
    I concur with the CO getting the chop. In fact after learning about this I said to the Lady, "well, that CO's career is done".

    But the fault didn't stop with the CO, the 7th Fleet Commander took out the XO AND the CMC. That makes me wonder.
    Total breakdown in Leadership. Probably coddled crew to help everybody be FRIENDS.

    I've seen it many times before. This no-doubt goes much deeper. But 7TH FLEET won't be sharing any of that with the public.
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