Trump is against those kneeling in the NFL

**Gunny** · 09-25-2017, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Abbey

I'm perplexed that you see nothing offensive in pointedly refusing to pay respect to our flag- that so many died for. I truly am starting to feel that I don't belong in this upside-down world.

He's just got a different opinion. He also has a point from a certain POV. Under most circumstances, I'm like who cares? Let fools be fools. And he's right in that this shouldn't be an issue. The President really shouldn't be using his position to weigh in on the matter anymore than any of these players. They have and he did, so...

It IS an issue. The culprit here more than anyone is the media. They've managed to turn one idiot's disrespect into a national debate. People who otherwise wouldn't care feel pushed into taking a side. Lost in it all is criminals should be punished, and we wouldn't need laws or the police if everyone would just behave and respect one another. And I don't get the circle of dumbness. The left needs laws and the police, not the right. Yet it is the left protesting them. BLM sure ain't no rightwing group.

I mean what do they want besides a rule saying "no arresting black criminals"? Then along comes fruitloop Kaepernick and the MSM.

**Tyr-Ziu Saxnot** · 09-25-2017, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Black Diamond

It would certainly go along with George soros dream/goals.

SOROS AND HIS ILK ARE BEHIND A LOT OF THIS RANCOR, CHAOS, PROTESTING CAMPAIGNS.
AS IT PLAYS A PART IN WEAKENING THIS NATION--THEIR MAIN GOAL..
Globalist goal.... --Tyr

**Tyr-Ziu Saxnot** · 09-25-2017, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Gunny

He's just got a different opinion. He also has a point from a certain POV. Under most circumstances, I'm like who cares? Let fools be fools. And he's right in that this shouldn't be an issue. The President really shouldn't be using his position to weigh in on the matter anymore than any of these players. They have and he did, so...

It IS an issue. The culprit here more than anyone is the media. They've managed to turn one idiot's disrespect into a national debate. People who otherwise wouldn't care feel pushed into taking a side. Lost in it all is criminals should be punished, and we wouldn't need laws or the police if everyone would just behave and respect one another. And I don't get the circle of dumbness. The left needs laws and the police, not the right. Yet it is the left protesting them. BLM sure ain't no rightwing group.

I mean what do they want besides a rule saying "no arresting black criminals"? Then along comes fruitloop Kaepernick and the MSM.

If I pay my money to go to a concert or a game I do not want to be fed some singer or playér's social/political views.
They can do that on their own damn time and away from the event I paid to attend..
Then we have some saying they are not dishonoring the flag, our military, or the millions that have sacrificed, bled and died to give/maintain the freedoms they now enjoy.. That false defense sickens me...
Is it too much to ask these multi-million dollar assholes to pay respect and show appreciation for the freedoms they now enjoy?

Trust me on this, there is not a damn one of them doing this that I would not spit in his damn face and cry for him to take a swing at me..
FFKK THEM.... -Tyr

**pete311** · 09-25-2017, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Abbey

I'm perplexed that you see nothing offensive in pointedly refusing to pay respect to our flag- that so many died for. I truly am starting to feel that I don't belong in this upside-down world.

It's not about the flag/anthem, it's about equality. You are perplexed because you lack their perspective.

**Black Diamond** · 09-25-2017, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by pete311

It's not about the flag/anthem, it's about equality. You are perplexed because you lack their perspective.

Don't like it here? Africa is that way (points). See how much money they make working for warlords of Somalia.

And it certainly was about the flag for colon CrappyNick. Other players are simply following his lead.

**Gunny** · 09-25-2017, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

If I pay my money to go to a concert or a game I do not want to be fed some singer or playér's social/political views.
They can do that on their own damn time and away from the event I paid to attend..
Then we have some saying they are not dishonoring the flag, our military, or the millions that have sacrificed, bled and died to give/maintain the freedoms they now enjoy.. That false defense sickens me...
Is it too much to ask these multi-million dollar assholes to pay respect and show appreciation for the freedoms they now enjoy?

Trust me on this, there is not a damn one of them doing this that I would not spit in his damn face and cry for him to take a swing at me..
FFKK THEM.... -Tyr

I'm not disagreeing with you. Have said the same many times. At the same time, I can see Mick's point about Trump. He's the President of the US, not the NFL.

**Black Diamond** · 09-25-2017, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

SOROS AND HIS ILK ARE BEHIND A LOT OF THIS RANCOR, CHAOS, PROTESTING CAMPAIGNS.
AS IT PLAYS A PART IN WEAKENING THIS NATION--THEIR MAIN GOAL..
Globalist goal.... --Tyr

I know a pastor who has called this conflict "clash of the billionaires". (Trump vs Soros)

**Black Diamond** · 09-25-2017, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Gunny

I'm not disagreeing with you. Have said the same many times. At the same time, I can see Mick's point about Trump. He's the President of the US, not the NFL.

Is it at all the president's job to try and affect culture?

**Bilgerat** · 09-25-2017, 03:04 PM

All I know for sure is

**High_Plains_Drifter** · 09-25-2017, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Gunny

One up ... Why play the National Anthem at all? Is there a point to doing so? I bet nobody even knows why they do it to begin with. The NBA does it because the NFL does it because MLB does it? I would say most people are probably ambivalent to it at best. Hell, the current crop of up-n-comers in the generation pool probably can't even comprehend English well enough to understand the words and meaning anyway. They consider getting through the alphabet a monumental achievement and STILL probably wonder what it means.

So our national anthem and flag is the problem and not the disrespectful garbage spitting on it?

**High_Plains_Drifter** · 09-25-2017, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by pete311

It's not about the flag/anthem, it's about equality. You are perplexed because you lack their perspective.

If it's not about our flag or national anthem, then why are these ass clowns spitting on them?

You leftist talk some seriously warped garbage in defense of this anti American trash, as well as can be expected I suppose, after all you are attempting to defend the indefensible. Once again you leftists are on the wrong side. ANYTHING un-American, and you liberals are all for it, without fail, happens every time.

**aboutime** · 09-25-2017, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by pete311

It's not about the flag/anthem, it's about equality. You are perplexed because you lack their perspective.

Petey. Again...you prove our point about you. "About equality?" Whose? Every one of those players who took a knee MAKE MORE THAN MOST OF THE PEOPLE in their home neighborhoods combined. Is that EQUALITY when a millionaire game player live in a mansion, when his neighbors have trouble keeping up with their rent????

**pete311** · 09-25-2017, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter

If it's not about our flag or national anthem, then why are these ass clowns spitting on them?

You leftist talk some seriously warped garbage in defense of this anti American trash, as well as can be expected I suppose, after all you are attempting to defend the indefensible. Once again you leftists are on the wrong side. ANYTHING un-American, and you liberals are all for it, without fail, happens every time.

Because if they silently protested on their front lawns after the game do you think we'd be talking about it? Anti-american? I assume you fought for the freedom of expression. Until there are NFL rules in place, they are being just as American as you are. Funny how conservatives talk about freedom and liberty and all you do is tell people what they can't do.

**pete311** · 09-25-2017, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by aboutime

Petey. Again...you prove our point about you. "About equality?" Whose? Every one of those players who took a knee MAKE MORE THAN MOST OF THE PEOPLE in their home neighborhoods combined. Is that EQUALITY when a millionaire game player live in a mansion, when his neighbors have trouble keeping up with their rent????

Are you under the impression the black athletes are protesting for financial equality?

**aboutime** · 09-25-2017, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by pete311

Are you under the impression the black athletes are protesting for financial equality?

Are you? Did you ask them WHAT KIND OF EQUALITY they are demanding?

All I want is AMERICANS who are AMERICANS to honor, respect, and BE Americans.

Rich athletes are supposed to play their sports...not become spokesmen for what they hate, or pretend to be demonstrating about. If they want to make a statement...ON THE FIELD ON SUNDAY is not what the TICKETS are sold for in this nation.

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