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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I have no idea. All these players are under personal conduct clauses in their contracts, regardless what they consider their Rights to be.

    I think Tomlin was trying to avoid an issue and instead created a new one. If Villanueva can break ranks and go outside and show support, what's to stop others from doing so next week and taking a knee, regardless what Tomlin says. He's not the team owner.

    The MSM could have avoided the whole controversy by NOT giving Kaepernick any attention. But they wouldn't be the MSM then.
    Could be argued msm could avoided trump by not giving him any attention. lol.

    I actually do get what Tomlin was doing. Better than Seattle explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Could be argued msm could avoided trump by not giving him any attention. lol.

    I actually do get what Tomlin was doing. Better than Seattle explanation.

    Tomlin was doing what I SUGGESTED here on DP yesterday, about the players not taking the field until after the national anthem is played.
    But...making a Decorated Veteran feel bad about showing his feelings...is just as bad as allowing the crybabies who take a knee...and saying nothing.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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    "I am allergic to piety, it makes me break out in rash judgements." - Penn Jillette
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    people do get caught in "whatever everyone else is doing" and have regrets afterwards. tomlin is a strong personality. not easy to disobey him, i can imagine.

    teams may have a problem on their hands next week. those who stayed in the locker room anyway.

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    Last edited by hjmick; 09-25-2017 at 04:50 PM.
    "I am allergic to piety, it makes me break out in rash judgements." - Penn Jillette
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    I hope jerry suspends anyone who kneels. If it's in the NFL rules, as you said, can he suspend them?

    I don't know if he can or not based on the rule I highlighted in the other thread. It may have to come down for the NFL offices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I don't know if he can or not based on the rule I highlighted in the other thread. It may have to come down for the NFL offices.
    He could bench them.

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    Trump knows how to fire up the base. I keep telling people he is smarter than everyone thinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Villanueva jersey up to $330 in eBay.
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    https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09/...-alone-anthem/

    He got ahead of the others, then the anthem came on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09/...-alone-anthem/

    He got ahead of the others, then the anthem came on.

    Yeah, I was just reading that. Damn shame. I rescind my vote...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    Yeah, I was just reading that. Damn shame. I rescind my vote...
    Reminds me of when my parents told me abut Santa Claus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Friend just texted saying they took a knee before the anthem and all stood up when it started.
    Yep, I just watched it. Cowboys took knee before, stood for anthem. Cardinals locked arms with coaches, owners, and some military.


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