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    And I'll never touch that shit again.

    I took that last night prior to bed.I woke up at like midnight and my legs were running a mile a minute. That shit is supposed to help people sleep too, but has the opposite effect on me. And that was 2 nights in a row! I just never suspected that as the issue.

    Anyone have "restless leg syndrome"? It SUCKS. Feels like you have to toss and turn literally all night, like bugs inside your skin and you cannot sleep. I took more xanax to overcome it and nothing worked.

    Then this morning I looked it up - diphenhydramine, the active ingredient in this and other similar products, is known to give that side effect to some. And of course I'm one of them. I "slept" for about 14 hours, or I should I tried for that long, and probably got 2-3 hours if I'm lucky.
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    Just looked up diphenhydramine, another indicator that you may have adult ADD.

    One of the reasons it's fairly easy to tell if medication for ADD works or not for kids is that it causes noticeable changes quite quickly. 'Speed' slows them down; 'Downers' speed their systems up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Just looked up diphenhydramine, another indicator that you may have adult ADD.

    One of the reasons it's fairly easy to tell if medication for ADD works or not for kids is that it causes noticeable changes quite quickly. 'Speed' slows them down; 'Downers' speed their systems up.
    Hmmm... can you PM me anything you may have seen? I'm like "Johnny 5" from short circuit and always looking for input, especially if it deals with my own health, or shit like this that makes sleeping difficult.

    Or you can post it here. not like it's super secret confidential double probation information!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Hmmm... can you PM me anything you may have seen? I'm like "Johnny 5" from short circuit and always looking for input, especially if it deals with my own health, or shit like this that makes sleeping difficult.

    Or you can post it here. not like it's super secret confidential double probation information!
    This gives a person's perspective who wasn't diagnosed as a child, she has more, just google her name and ADHD:

    https://theestablishment.co/the-proc...k-6fee6b8e1f1c

    https://theestablishment.co/how-i-ca...d-2c77bf0a46dd

    https://theestablishment.co/why-adul...n-de0ca2e2d0cd

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    I know my son, who had severe ADHD as a kid, still recognizes that coffee helps 'calm' his wondering a bit and alcohol makes him jittery. Both help in different ways though in keeping 'focus.' He's careful with both, though more so alcohol, he is a bit off coffee freak, he knows what self-medicating can do.
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    I agree, I feel very weird on Tylenol PM. Uneasy, drowsy but not sleepy. It's the benadryl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I agree, I feel very weird on Tylenol PM. Uneasy, drowsy but not sleepy. It's the benadryl.
    Benedryl contains diphenhydramine, Benedryl is not an ingredient of Tylenol PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Benedryl contains diphenhydramine, Benedryl is not an ingredient of Tylenol PM.
    Seriously? Benedryl is diphenhydramine. Are you going to bust my chops when I say I used a Kleenex too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Seriously? Benedryl is diphenhydramine. Are you going to bust my chops when I say I used a Kleenex too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Seriously? Benedryl is diphenhydramine. Are you going to bust my chops when I say I used a Kleenex too?
    Both have diphenhydramine as their active ingredient, both contain other ingredients.
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    This one I can embarrassingly relate to. I've never once used the term "self medicate" as it always sounded like an excuse to me. I always and honestly thought I was getting high to get high.

    I've been bouncing off the walls since I was a toddler. I was always thin because I never stopped. Athletic as hell. Always on the move. And what I never paid attention to before, which I have in my latter years - is that I do have an inability to focus, or listen, if it's got any length to it at all. I just always chalked it up to being hyper, just who I was.

    Damn, I just know that no one is going to believe this - but I've tried some illegal substances over the years! Yeah, yeah, I know.

    While I've done "speed" type drugs before, they are just not for me. My thing was a way to escape reality, something to subdue me, make me sleep, relax - I guess downers if you will. I thought it was just getting high, but I do see a pattern looking back. The weed smoking was always my way out from reality. I could still function, I could actually focus better at times, it relaxed me, helped me sleep, and most importantly, kept my "racing thoughts" at bay, which would keep me up all night or make me too hyper during the day.

    But then even when I quit the illicit stuff, that's when I went to a doctor. Ultimately, with ALL of the truth on the table, the drugs continued - but now legally, and to more or less accomplish the same thing. Without them, I would still be that nutty guy running off the rails daily, or literally unable to sleep but for more than a handful of hours.

    Alcohol too. You have fun while drinking it, and then it would ultimately help me sleep of course. It was never really my cup of tea though. And of course coffee!!
    I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat…You ask, what is our policy? I say it is to wage war by land, sea, and air. War with all our might and with all the strength God has given us, and to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark and lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word. It is victory. Victory at all costs - Victory in spite of all terrors - Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I agree, I feel very weird on Tylenol PM. Uneasy, drowsy but not sleepy. It's the benadryl diphenhydramine.
    It's not semantics, she's pointing out a valid difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Both have diphenhydramine as their active ingredient, both contain other ingredients.
    Correctomundo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    It's not semantics, she's pointing out a valid difference.



    Correctomundo!
    My statement is not any less understood. Benadryl is more commonly understood than diphenhydramine which is why I used it. Inactive ingredients (aka fillers) are not important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    My statement is not any less understood. Benadryl is more commonly understood than diphenhydramine which is why I used it. Inactive ingredients (aka fillers) are not important.
    Understood? Perhaps so, since it's kinda part of the discussion. Correct? Absolutely not. There are a lot of drugs with that active ingredient. One wouldn't say that "benadryl" is in any of them. It's simply shares a same ingredient.
    I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears and sweat…You ask, what is our policy? I say it is to wage war by land, sea, and air. War with all our might and with all the strength God has given us, and to wage war against a monstrous tyranny never surpassed in the dark and lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word. It is victory. Victory at all costs - Victory in spite of all terrors - Victory, however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post


    I know my son, who had severe ADHD as a kid, still recognizes that coffee helps 'calm' his wondering a bit and alcohol makes him jittery. Both help in different ways though in keeping 'focus.' He's careful with both, though more so alcohol, he is a bit of a coffee freak, he knows what self-medicating can do.
    Gee, I wonder where he got that trait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Gee, I wonder where he got that trait.

    LOL! The other two don't touch coffee. Go figure!
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