Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
...but the tenants of good behaviour and self-discipline are not full of millions of factors. Poor behaviour and lack of self-discipine is 98% bad parenting.
I am not a parent, but I believe it's not so easy unless you want to sap the kid out of the kid and create some kind of militaristic Chinese environment where the kid ends up committing suicide under the pressure. So what is the line between letting a kid be a kid, aka make mistakes, and calling them undisciplined?

I'm not talking about honey boo boo parents, they are on the margins.