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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    Put down your fear. (shrug). Put on a logical mind. it's easy.
    What fear? What logic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    What fear? What logic?
    I think you're afraid of truth. I suspect you're afraid of what it might mean to know God exists. I suspect most folks' self-esteem cant handle the thought they are NOT the center of the world and stuff. Logic. You know...the opposite of Atheism. Thinking this happened by magic or mystical good-fortune...bro...that my friend takes faith.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    I think you're afraid of truth. I suspect you're afraid of what it might mean to know God exists. I suspect most folks' self-esteem cant handle the thought they are NOT the center of the world and stuff. Logic. You know...the opposite of Atheism. Thinking this happened by magic or mystical good-fortune...bro...that my friend takes faith.
    hmmm easier to believe there is eternal darkness or a nice heaven. I wonder which is easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    hmmm easier to believe there is eternal darkness or a nice heaven. I wonder which is easier.
    i dont care about those things. I care about reason, evidence, probability, and love. And truth. Absolutes. Data.


    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Every single religion is man made. A man wrote every single piece of scripture in every single holy book.
    Nobody cares nor is talking about Scripture. God is infinitely bigger than a book. The book simply describes God anyway. God's nature.

    Nature, on the other hand, describes God's love. Nature POINTS to creation. And that's a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    i dont care about those things. I care about reason, evidence, probability, and love. And truth. Absolutes. Data.
    Please tell me this reason, evidence, probability, and love. And truth. Absolutes. Data.

    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    Nature POINTS to creation.
    Please explain and don't link me to creationism vs evolution bullshit

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    I choose not to discuss my religion or lack thereof. I prefer that others do the same.
    "I am allergic to piety, it makes me break out in rash judgements." - Penn Jillette
    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "The man who invented the telescope found out more about heaven than the closed eyes of prayer ever discovered." - Robert G. Ingersoll

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I choose not to discuss my religion or lack thereof. I prefer that others do the same.
    That's because you need Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I choose not to discuss my religion or lack thereof. I prefer that others do the same.
    Depends. I can respect that. You aren't alone. I won't engage in a pissing contest over it and I'm far from a Holy roller. I can discuss it without selling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I choose not to discuss my religion or lack thereof. I prefer that others do the same.
    Why reply in a thread about religion, just to say you don't discuss religion?



    And side note, why do you not want others to discuss religion? Why does even that bother you?

    Thanks Black Diamond, for answering the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Why reply in a thread about religion, just to say you don't discuss religion?



    And side note, why do not want others to discuss religion? Why does even that bother you?

    Thanks Black Diamond, for answering the question.
    You're welcome. I live in a relatively conservative area and I saw a billboard (one of the new ones that changes every few minutes) saying God doesn't exist. I had never seen anything like that anywhere let alone around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Why reply in a thread about religion, just to say you don't discuss religion?



    And side note, why do not want others to discuss religion? Why does even that bother you?

    Why not?

    You apparently read something in my post that wasn't there...


    I choose not to discuss my religion or lack thereof. I prefer that others do the same.

    I have no problem with people discussing religion, I prefer they not discuss their religion specifically. Why? Because nine times out of ten they do so in an effort to convert someone. I don't know about you, but I'm quite happy where I am, religiously speaking, and don't need converting.
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