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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Man wrote all the holy books. That does not mean I don't consider the possibility of a higher power. I especially don't think humans are a supreme being. We are apes. I agree with your last statement.
    Man wrote all history. So then are you saying history is bull shit? MAN writes EVERYTHING. Is EVERYTHING MAN wrote a LIE?

    Because whether you think so or not, the Bible IS primarily a historical account, despite your denials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Yes you are. You're spewing things about the Bible and Christianity that just aren't true, and you don't want to discuss anything about it because your mind is already made up about it, and you'll deny, deflect, contort and lie to belittle any religion, and in this case, Christianity.

    I learned a long time ago it's an exercise in futility to argue people like you about religion.
    What have I said that isn't true?
    Last edited by pete311; 11-02-2017 at 06:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Man wrote all history. So then are you saying history is bull shit? MAN writes EVERYTHING. Is EVERYTHING MAN wrote a LIE?

    Because whether you think so or not, the Bible IS primarily a historical account, despite your denials.
    I don't know what you mean by "man wrote all history". That doesn't make any sense.

    The books of the Bible are books of testimony. Stories. Whose sole purpose is to spread the word of the Christian God. Some of it tries to be historical and some with truth, but much is fiction. In any case, as I already said, the bible has been edited and translated a million times by various churches for various reasons over centuries and written by largely anonymous men decades and centuries after Jesus. That's not a good thing for the reliability of such records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I don't know what you mean by "man wrote all history". That doesn't make any sense.

    The books of the Bible are books of testimony. Stories. Whose sole purpose is to spread the word of the Christian God. Some of it tries to be historical and some with truth, but much is fiction. In any case, as I already said, the bible has been edited and translated a million times by various churches for various reasons over centuries and written by largely anonymous men decades and centuries after Jesus. That's not a good thing for the reliability of such records.
    Disagree on a couple of points.

    One the Bible's "sole purpose" is NOT to spread the word of a Christian God". The first 3/4s of the Bible is Jewish history and proven fairly accurate. Christ appears in the New Testament and states he is not here to refute the word of God; rather, to reinforce it.

    The King James version of the Holy Bible has been verified as fairly accurate to the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Dead Sea Scrolls are in fact evidence.

    Roman records are also rather accurate to the history of Christ, and the Romans had ZERO reason to support the existence of a God they themselves did not worship. Romans did not become Christian until Constantine was Emperor and in fact, persecuted Christians. They di not persecute the Jews so much because the Pharisees that ruled Judaism after Israel rebelled against Rome and Israel was handed over to the Philistines kissed Roman ass.

    The beliefs in your statement is not supported by historical fact.
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    I choose not to discuss my religion or lack thereof. I prefer that others do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I choose not to discuss my religion or lack thereof. I prefer that others do the same.
    That's because you need Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Am I alone in thinking that Atheism is now rampant in our country? Am I just in a particularly Godless part of the nation?

    I once saw a statistic that 85% of the country was Christian. Add in Jews and Muslims, etc., and one would think there must be very few Atheists.

    What do y'all think?
    Picking up steam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I choose not to discuss my religion or lack thereof. I prefer that others do the same.
    Depends. I can respect that. You aren't alone. I won't engage in a pissing contest over it and I'm far from a Holy roller. I can discuss it without selling it.

    Well, except with gnostic. I do it then just to watch him whine
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    beep beep boop beep boop.

    Finally. petey shows nothing, as usual.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I choose not to discuss my religion or lack thereof. I prefer that others do the same.
    Why reply in a thread about religion, just to say you don't discuss religion?



    And side note, why do you not want others to discuss religion? Why does even that bother you?

    Thanks Black Diamond, for answering the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Why reply in a thread about religion, just to say you don't discuss religion?



    And side note, why do not want others to discuss religion? Why does even that bother you?

    Thanks Black Diamond, for answering the question.
    You're welcome. I live in a relatively conservative area and I saw a billboard (one of the new ones that changes every few minutes) saying God doesn't exist. I had never seen anything like that anywhere let alone around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Why reply in a thread about religion, just to say you don't discuss religion?



    And side note, why do not want others to discuss religion? Why does even that bother you?

    Why not?

    You apparently read something in my post that wasn't there...


    I choose not to discuss my religion or lack thereof. I prefer that others do the same.

    I have no problem with people discussing religion, I prefer they not discuss their religion specifically. Why? Because nine times out of ten they do so in an effort to convert someone. I don't know about you, but I'm quite happy where I am, religiously speaking, and don't need converting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Atheists are not against beliefs. That is just ridiculous.
    you don't think its true?.........(let that sink in a minute)........
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Am I alone in thinking that Atheism is now rampant in our country? Am I just in a particularly Godless part of the nation?

    I once saw a statistic that 85% of the country was Christian. Add in Jews and Muslims, etc., and one would think there must be very few Atheists.

    What do y'all think?
    I think the key is that 50% of the country is apathetic.......some may consider themselves "Christian" because momma used to go to church....
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post


    Correct, we can't refute nor prove the existence in a god, so I choose to remain in doubt.
    lol....after all this we find you're an agnostic instead of an atheist?........atheists have no doubt.......they DENY the existence of a god.....
    ...full immersion.....

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