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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    agree to disagree, agnosticism is whether we can know, atheism is whether you believe.
    I can accept the fact you disagree with every dictionary in the world.......not sure why you want to though.....
    agnostics say we cannot know. atheists say they do.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Cool, and I have a problem with faith? Where did I say that?
    atheists have a problem with faith.......you said you were an atheist.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Stories without evidence is fiction.
    there you go again.....you just got done saying you didn't have a problem with faith.....by definition, faith is belief in the absence of evidence......
    Last edited by PostmodernProphet; 11-04-2017 at 05:25 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    there you go again.....
    Easy Gipper. Easy.

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    this is why I consider atheists irrational......they contradict themselves and claim its logical......
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    there you go again.....you just got done saying you didn't have a problem with faith.....by definition, faith is belief in the absence of evidence......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I can accept the fact you disagree with every dictionary in the world.......not sure why you want to though.....
    agnostics say we cannot know. atheists say they do.....
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agnostic
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist

    I am wrong where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    atheists have a problem with faith.......you said you were an atheist.....
    Where does it say "against faith"?
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheist

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    there you go again.....you just got done saying you didn't have a problem with faith.....by definition, faith is belief in the absence of evidence......
    Calling it what it is, doesn't mean I have a problem with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    this is why I consider atheists irrational......they contradict themselves and claim its logical......
    A little less arrogance would make you look less foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    A little less arrogance would make you look less foolish.

    petey. Thanks for using your own words to describe yourself, just as most of us have wanted to say about you. But then...being a confused, sad, miserable Atheist in a world full of Believers full of Faith...must really hurt when you are lonely, and wondering why nobody really cares WHAT YOU THINK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    petey. Thanks for using your own words to describe yourself, just as most of us have wanted to say about you. But then...being a confused, sad, miserable Atheist in a world full of Believers full of Faith...must really hurt when you are lonely, and wondering why nobody really cares WHAT YOU THINK.
    Why you so obsessed with me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    A little less arrogance would make you look less foolish.
    This is tiresome.

    An atheist doesn't believe in God. It's a position which an atheist is committed to.

    An agnostic veers towards non-belief, BUT, is NOT committed to that position. An agnostic can therefore - if proof were ever presented - have latitude to adopt a belief in God.

    An atheist can do no such thing. Non-belief quantifies and confirms the very definition of atheist.

    What's so very ludicrous, though, is that it's this very inflexibility which defines the difference between the two .. and taken, get this, to the extent of a FAITH in non-belief. It therefore follows that atheism is faith-driven.

    Atheists can't see this truth, though. They can't see that faith in the so-called 'truth' of the nonexistence of God, even though the point hasn't actually been PROVEN to them, can't help but be based on faith rather than logic.

    A logical mind is open to any form of reasoning which proves the truth or otherwise of perceived fact. An atheist, to be one, has to maintain a closed mind to any possibility of the existence of God - proven, provable, or not. Atheism is not logical .. it's too driven by sheer, blind belief to be logical.

    If irremediably illogical, it's also irrational. It can't be otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Actually it's what you believe. Some magical god that came from nothing and poof, makes a whole universe out of nothing! And for no reason whatsoever. Makes perfect sense. How is that graphic not genesis?

    At least I've got doubt and not throwing in with some fable bullshit from 2000 years ago. Makes perfect sense!
    How do you KNOW you're right, though .. ?

    How do you presume to have a full grasp of any / all possible reason(s) for the universe's creation ? If the mind which created it is unimaginably greater than your own, possessing an intelligence beyond your ability to comprehend, how can you begin to come up with any conclusions as to why it did what it did ?

    Face this fact. Though you'll happily try to ridicule the so-called irrationality of those who cling to their faith, YOU, Pete, are doing nothing different to that yourself. You have a faith that God doesn't exist. You cannot defend this faith, since you cannot prove to have a superior grasp upon the realities of our origin than those you'll happily oppose. You therefore don't KNOW you're right.

    But, you'll believe you are, all the same.

    That's because your faith is a blind one. Ultimately unreasoned, since you don't admit to the possibility of any superior reasoning from any other origin ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    This is tiresome.

    An atheist doesn't believe in God. It's a position which an atheist is committed to.

    An agnostic veers towards non-belief, BUT, is NOT committed to that position. An agnostic can therefore - if proof were ever presented - have latitude to adopt a belief in God.

    An atheist can do no such thing. Non-belief quantifies and confirms the very definition of atheist.

    What's so very ludicrous, though, is that it's this very inflexibility which defines the difference between the two .. and taken, get this, to the extent of a FAITH in non-belief. It therefore follows that atheism is faith-driven.

    Atheists can't see this truth, though. They can't see that faith in the so-called 'truth' of the nonexistence of God, even though the point hasn't actually been PROVEN to them, can't help but be based on faith rather than logic.

    A logical mind is open to any form of reasoning which proves the truth or otherwise of perceived fact. An atheist, to be one, has to maintain a closed mind to any possibility of the existence of God - proven, provable, or not. Atheism is not logical .. it's too driven by sheer, blind belief to be logical.

    If irremediably illogical, it's also irrational. It can't be otherwise.
    You need to reread the definitions instead of writing your own and injecting a lot of personal theory.

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