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    And now there's this...

    RICHEST 1% OWN HALF THE WORLD'S WEALTH.

    Credit Suisse report highlights increasing gap between the super-rich and the remainder of the globe’s population

    At the other end of the spectrum, the world’s 3.5 billion poorest adults each have assets of less than $10,000 (£7,600). Collectively these people, who account for 70% of the world’s working age population, account for just 2.7% of global wealth.

    https://www.theguardian.com/inequali...-credit-suisse

    Then there's this video, which illustrated to me how little I really knew about who has all the money in America... and yes, I'll admit, I found the video a little shocking, and now being as this video is 4 years old, it's only worse now, and not by any linear scale...



    My point with this thread isn't that I'm a commie, or even a socialist, but that I do believe that the deck is stacked in the riches favor. They can afford to lobby and buy the politicians, and the poor slobs on the bottom have to just piss off because they can't do anything about it anyway. I just hate stacked decks. I hate influence peddling. I hate lobbying. I have nothing against the rich. I have nothing against someone wanting to be rich. I do have something against the rich using their money to screw the people that have no way to fight back, so they just get milked.
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    Did no one read the reports on the paradise papers? If money is the recognition of a life well lived then I must assume no one here is a multi millionaire nor billionaire, so I guess, we're all a bunch of fucking low life losers who never worked hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Did no one read the reports on the paradise papers? If money is the recognition of a life well lived then I must assume no one here is a multi millionaire nor billionaire, so I guess, we're all a bunch of fucking low life losers who never worked hard.

    Anyone who intentionally bases their life on wealth, riches, and being more prosperous than others...actually lead rather sad lives of loneliness. If any of us here guage our success in life on how much WE HAVE, compared to others, in any way. WE are the lesser successful in life.
    Allowing money, and riches to control everything you do, eventually see's how terrible life can be...from the other end of the spectrum.

    Like the definition of STATUS.....
    "People who THINK they have status BUY things they DON'T need, with Money, they DON'T have, to IMPRESS people they DON'T know".

    They may have all the luxuries they purchased with Credit Cards, but in the end. They eventually pay for things they no longer have. NOW THAT'S STATUS!
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Did no one read the reports on the paradise papers? If money is the recognition of a life well lived then I must assume no one here is a multi millionaire nor billionaire, so I guess, we're all a bunch of fucking low life losers who never worked hard.
    What this all comes down to, for me, is HUMAN NATURE.

    We are built to strive, to achieve, and in the process, profit from the fruits of those labours.

    Socialist systems encourage dependence upon the State. They DIScourage entrepreneurialism. Result ... the vast majority of Socialist societies out there lack the commitment to achieving proper potential. They're about promising much, then robbing people through high taxation regimes. Left-wing Unions, striving for wage increases, would swiftly disappear if employers always paid everything they possibly could, with no thought for profit.

    Socialist systems impoverish, and are ultimately self-destructive.

    The standard of living enjoyed by the average US citizen is way above that experienced by a Russian citizen. Why ? Because they were crippled by generations of fiscal dysfunctionality coming out of the Soviet way of doing things.

    In my own country, we have our 'scandal' of certain citizens profiting from offshore tax 'dodges'. Why does it happen ? Because human nature drives people to take such advantages, as and when they can.

    Jeremy Corbyn - Labour leader (Socialist) wanted the Queen to publicly apologise for the way her own estate's finances were handled. He failed utterly to account for, or even acknowledge, that Labour-run local Councils were THEMSELVES profiting from offshore investment schemes !! Since news of that emerged, the silence from him has been deafening ...

    You can't buck human nature. The Soviets tried it, but the Soviet Union rotted from within itself all the same. What took its place is considerably more healthy (though far from perfect).

    Given the opportunity to profit, and people will take it. It's really that simple.
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    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Well... then what does it mean?
    ????....hell.......
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ????....hell.......
    And since hell is or will be cast into fire and hell and death will be no more, hell isn't something we should use to fear-people into learning about God.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ????....hell.......
    So....

    "24 “But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation." ...

    ...means that God meant the rich will go to hell? Hmmm... what I see that as saying is the richer you are here on earth in life, the poorer you'll be in heaven, because like it says, you've received your consolation already here on earth. I didn't get that it means the rich will go to hell... I don't see that.

    That's my two cents.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I'm in agreement with SL, Abbey, and Darin. What other people have or don't, doesn't change my positions one way or another. Coming up with a new idea or product; working 2 or 3 jobs to get ahead; starting up a business and doing everything required to be a success, those are things to be proud of, for those that accomplish them. Truth is, for one reason or another most of us don't want to sacrifice as much as these folks. Choices.
    Sacrifice has no merit; it is merely brownnosing. The parasites demand it because fat cats love mice, especially hungry mice who will take dangerous risks to get nourishment.

    One of the economic bullies' slogans is "You have to want it hard enough." Yeah, that's for wannabes. But we are not given a word to use for "successful wannabes." That would be "shouldntabeens," which this declining society is full of.
    On the Outside, Trickling Down on the Insiders
    The Born-Rich Hate and Fear All Other White People. Cut Them off at 18 or Cut Them Down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post


    "Exactly Abbey...."
    Saying that the rich create jobs is like saying that vampires create blood.
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    The Born-Rich Hate and Fear All Other White People. Cut Them off at 18 or Cut Them Down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    Anyone who intentionally bases their life on wealth, riches, and being more prosperous than others...actually lead rather sad lives of loneliness. If any of us here guage our success in life on how much WE HAVE, compared to others, in any way. WE are the lesser successful in life.
    Allowing money, and riches to control everything you do, eventually see's how terrible life can be...from the other end of the spectrum.

    Like the definition of STATUS.....
    "People who THINK they have status BUY things they DON'T need, with Money, they DON'T have, to IMPRESS people they DON'T know".

    They may have all the luxuries they purchased with Credit Cards, but in the end. They eventually pay for things they no longer have. NOW THAT'S STATUS!
    Greed is suicide of the soul.
    On the Outside, Trickling Down on the Insiders
    The Born-Rich Hate and Fear All Other White People. Cut Them off at 18 or Cut Them Down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    Saying that the rich create jobs is like saying that vampires create blood.


    Okay. So, care to tell us how many Poor people have businesses that employ other people? Or tell us how many poor people have successful business?
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummond View Post
    What this all comes down to, for me, is HUMAN NATURE.

    We are built to strive, to achieve, and in the process, profit from the fruits of those labours.

    Socialist systems encourage dependence upon the State. They DIScourage entrepreneurialism. Result ... the vast majority of Socialist societies out there lack the commitment to achieving proper potential. They're about promising much, then robbing people through high taxation regimes. Left-wing Unions, striving for wage increases, would swiftly disappear if employers always paid everything they possibly could, with no thought for profit.

    Socialist systems impoverish, and are ultimately self-destructive.

    The standard of living enjoyed by the average US citizen is way above that experienced by a Russian citizen. Why ? Because they were crippled by generations of fiscal dysfunctionality coming out of the Soviet way of doing things.

    In my own country, we have our 'scandal' of certain citizens profiting from offshore tax 'dodges'. Why does it happen ? Because human nature drives people to take such advantages, as and when they can.

    Jeremy Corbyn - Labour leader (Socialist) wanted the Queen to publicly apologise for the way her own estate's finances were handled. He failed utterly to account for, or even acknowledge, that Labour-run local Councils were THEMSELVES profiting from offshore investment schemes !! Since news of that emerged, the silence from him has been deafening ...

    You can't buck human nature. The Soviets tried it, but the Soviet Union rotted from within itself all the same. What took its place is considerably more healthy (though far from perfect).

    Given the opportunity to profit, and people will take it. It's really that simple.
    Under the system imposed on us, we are dependent on plutocratic parasites, who are no better than Communist Party parasites. So we have our own Kremlin on Wall Street. The only reason we are more prosperous than the USSR is that there were no unions in the Soviet Union. There is an unmotivating outside ownership in both systems. Communism is State Capitalism and Capitalism is Communism for the rich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    Under the system imposed on us, we are dependent on plutocratic parasites, who are no better than Communist Party parasites. So we have our own Kremlin on Wall Street. The only reason we are more prosperous than the USSR is that there were no unions in the Soviet Union. There is an unmotivating outside ownership in both systems. Communism is State Capitalism and Capitalism is Communism for the rich.

    Thank you for your honesty, Nancy Pelosi!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    Saying that the rich create jobs is like saying that vampires create blood.
    If the rich don't create jobs, then who does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    If the rich don't create jobs, then who does?
    The government.

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