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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    And since hell is or will be cast into fire and hell and death will be no more, hell isn't something we should use to fear-people into learning about God.
    first of all, that wasn't what the question was.....second, its not about fearing people into learning about God.......the Bible tells us what God is offering and tells us the end result of our choices......if you are only willing to love because you're scared of the consequences, what is the value of your love?.....that's the very result God's actions are designed to avoid......

    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    So....

    "24 “But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation." ...

    ...means that God meant the rich will go to hell? Hmmm... what I see that as saying is the richer you are here on earth in life, the poorer you'll be in heaven, because like it says, you've received your consolation already here on earth. I didn't get that it means the rich will go to hell... I don't see that.

    That's my two cents.


    being "poor" in heaven wouldn't be woe......the sermon on the mount describes the difference between those who were blessed and those who were not.......do you recall what distinguished those two groups in the sermon?.......
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ......if you are only willing to love because you're scared of the consequences, what is the value of your love?

    ...which is why preaching Christ by simply warning of Hell means nothing good comes from it. In fact, Preaching hell or dire warnings if you don't behave, is anti-love, anti-god.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    The government.
    I know you're being facetious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    being "poor" in heaven wouldn't be woe......
    ITA.

    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    the sermon on the mount describes the difference between those who were blessed and those who were not.......do you recall what distinguished those two groups in the sermon?.......
    No... maybe I should read that again.

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    Default The Employees Make the Business Run, Not the Owners

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    Okay. So, care to tell us how many Poor people have businesses that employ other people? Or tell us how many poor people have successful businesses?
    So poor people are not parasites off working people. What's your point? And quit using "the poor" as the opposite of the rich. Both deserve to be poor. You know perfectly well that when you preach "the poor" as the alternative to your Masters, everybody knows the poor are lazy misfits and is led to the conclusion that the rich must be good people if we have to worship poverty trash instead of them.
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    The Born-Rich Hate and Fear All Other White People. Cut Them off at 18 or Cut Them Down.

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    Default More Proof That Liberals Are Agents of the Right Wing, Which Is All About Inheritance

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    Thank you for your honesty, Nancy Pelosi!
    Her Daddy was Mayor of Baltimore. Her brother inherited that job, and Princess Pelosi herself would also be a nobody without Daddy's power. Your precious private-sector HeirHeads get their jobs the same anti-democratic way. So Pelosi, Dubya, and thousands of others are of the same unearned-privilege ilk.
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    Default Owners Aren't Earners

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    The government.
    A job is an activity, not a creation. Did the Astros' owner create their World Series championship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    ...everybody knows the poor are lazy misfits...
    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    ...poverty trash...
    Now you're back to sounding like a retarded bigot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    So poor people are not parasites off working people. What's your point? And quit using "the poor" as the opposite of the rich. Both deserve to be poor. You know perfectly well that when you preach "the poor" as the alternative to your Masters, everybody knows the poor are lazy misfits and is led to the conclusion that the rich must be good people if we have to worship poverty trash instead of them.
    Answer my question. How many poor business owners have you worked for in the past?
    Better yet. Tell all of us how many poor people earn enough to pay others to work for them?

    As for opposites. Your supposed logic about 'Both deserve to be poor' is nearly as stupid coming from you as asking the homeless guy on the street to give you a job.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
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    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    ...which is why preaching Christ by simply warning of Hell means nothing good comes from it. In fact, Preaching hell or dire warnings if you don't behave, is anti-love, anti-god.
    nobody does that.....that's saying you can't preach Christ by saying all kitchen cupboards must be oak.....
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    nobody does that.....that's saying you can't preach Christ by saying all kitchen cupboards must be oak.....
    The dude definitely has some very convoluted, not seeming to connect with any sort of reality, ideas.

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    Default You Might Be Contrite About Being Quite Trite Parroting Your Parasite

    Quote Originally Posted by aboutime View Post
    How many poor business owners have you worked for in the past?
    Better yet. Tell all of us how many poor people earn enough to pay others to work for them?

    As for opposites. Your supposed logic about 'Both deserve to be poor' is nearly as stupid coming from you as asking the homeless guy on the street to give you a job.
    Who makes the rich rich? His employees. Then he takes the money he siphoned off them and starts another business the employees there are supposed to be grateful to him instead of to the people who created his wealth. I know you're desperate to maintain your father-figure Masters' lie, so I'll let you ramble on preaching to the other posters. I even hope your boss is reading your sales pitch for his leeching class so he can give you a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    Who makes the rich rich? His employees. Then he takes the money he siphoned off them and starts another business the employees there are supposed to be grateful to him instead of to the people who created his wealth. I know you're desperate to maintain your father-figure Masters' lie, so I'll let you ramble on preaching to the other posters. I even hope your boss is reading your sales pitch for his leeching class so he can give you a bonus.

    Yes, far better that we all work for the government. That teat is mighty full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Yes, far better that we all work for the government. That teat is mighty full.
    They apparently have an unlimited bottomless checkbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    Who makes the rich rich? His employees. Then he takes the money he siphoned off them and starts another business the employees there are supposed to be grateful to him instead of to the people who created his wealth. I know you're desperate to maintain your father-figure Masters' lie, so I'll let you ramble on preaching to the other posters. I even hope your boss is reading your sales pitch for his leeching class so he can give you a bonus.
    Would you prefer he had no employee's, and everyone was on the Govt. teat on Unemployment? You are so dedicated to being a Socialist, or even accepting the Communist way of life...you deserve to be a permanent victim of your own ignorance. Depending on others for you to survive, without YOU having any desire to Improve, or be Successful is very telling from your obvious lack of intelligence, and logic.
    By the way. I am my own boss. I have been since 1995 when I retired from the Navy after 30 years of defending, and protecting IDIOTS like you.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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