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    This may have a better chance of starting the next war than anything else on the plate. The muslims and jews don't care for one another, in case anyone hasn't been paying attention.

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    Trump Informs Abbas, Jordan's Abdullah He Intends to Move U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem

    U.S. President Donald Trump told Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Jordan's King Abdullah that he plans to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem on Tuesday, according to Abbas' spokesman and Jordanian reports. Trump also called Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Egyptian President*Abdel-Fattah al-Sissi to inform him of the decision.

    Senior U.S. officials have said Trump is likely on Wednesday to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital while delaying relocating the embassy from Tel Aviv for another six months, though he is expected to order his aides to begin planning such a move immediately. The officials said, however, that no final decisions have been made.

    Following the call, Abbas urged the Pope and the leaders of Russia, France and Jordan to intervene against Trump's declared intention to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, Abbas's spokesman said.*



    During the call with Trump, Abbas warned that the action will have "dangerous consequences," said Abbas' spokesman, adding that "the Palestinian stance is determined and steadfast - there will not be a Palestinian state without East Jerusalem as its capital according to decisions by the international community." Abbas was holding an emergency meeting in his bureau following the phone conversation with Trump.

    Abdullah also warned Trump of the decision's repercussions on Middle East security and stability. Abdullah pledged he would thwart any American initiative to renew the peace process and would encourage resistance among Muslims and Christians alike.

    Rest - https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.826990
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    Turkey president Erdogan tells Trump declaring Jerusalem Israel's capital is a 'red line' for Muslims

    City is home to major Muslim, Christian and Jewish holy sites

    Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said Donald Trump's plan to declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel is a "red line" for Muslims and could see him breaking off diplomatic relations with the country.

    Mr Erdogan told parliament his country's response "could go as far as us cutting diplomatic ties with Israel."

    He also said he would convene a summit meeting of countries of the Organisation for Islamic Cooperation to oppose any move recognising Jerusalem.

    American officials have said Mr Trump may recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital this week as a way to offset his likely decision to delay his campaign promise of moving the US embassy there.

    His point-man on the Middle East, son-in-law Jared Kushner, later said the US President hasn't decided yet what steps to take regarding Jerusalem.

    The diplomatic adviser of President Mahmoud Abbas said the Palestinian leadership would "stop contacts" with the United States if Mr Trump recognised Jerusalem and Israel's capital.

    Rest - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8092411.html


    Arab warnings mount as U.S. suggests move to declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel

    JERUSALEM — Arab nations and Palestinian officials have warned of dire consequences if the United States recognizes Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, including potential unrest and an end to the peace process, amid last-minute lobbying to prevent President Trump from making the move.*

    In a late-night call Sunday, Jordan’s foreign minister, Ayman Safadi, warned Secretary of State Rex Tillerson that such a decision could “trigger anger across the Arab and Muslim world, fuel tension and jeopardize peace efforts,” according to Jordan’s state news agency.

    Egypt’s foreign minister, Sameh Shoukry, also discussed with Tillerson the “possible negative impacts” on peace, according to a ministry spokesman. He asked that Tillerson avoid taking decisions that could “stir tensions in the region.”*

    Turkey said a change in policy would be a*“major catastrophe.”*Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki, meanwhile, called for an emergency meeting of the 22 members of the Arab League, which is expected to take place Tuesday.*

    Rest - https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.4310a2b1b3c8
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    This is pointless. There must be invisible hands pulling some strings here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    This is pointless. There must be invisible hands pulling some strings here.
    Which hands would that be?



    i know. The JOOOOOOOOOOS

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    This is pointless. There must be invisible hands pulling some strings here.
    Why, in your opinion, is it pointless? This is something that has been being discussed for many years now.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Why, in your opinion, is it pointless? This is something that has been being discussed for many years now.
    What does it accomplish other than inflaming tensions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    What does it accomplish other than inflaming tensions?
    The Jewish people consider Jerusalem a VERY important part of their history, and want it to be their "eternal" capital. So it's more than really just moving the embassy.

    Probably, while different, but why Palestinians also find it to be so important to them as well.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Amazing that how when it comes to Muslims that it always devolves into violence somehow, and it's just generally accepted universally. The Shiites and Shia or whatever, killing for thousands of years, no one cares. Hamas and others killing in Palestine, most don't care. The Muslims and the violence towards women, most don't blink an eye. Muslims around the world (Iran) will kill and torture gay people, and folks don't blink. But here in the USA, if a white conservative even looks at a gay person the wrong way...

    It's just odd that muslims and their violence and things like that with women, and gay people - it's almost ignored sometimes. It's literally insane that it's ignored and they're often given a pass. It's their culture BS.

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    U.S. Braces for violence at embassies around Muslim world as Donald Trump nears Jerusalem move

    The U.S. government’s diplomatic staff braced for violent protests around the Muslim world as speculation mounted that President Donald Trump planned to move the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and recognize the city as Israel’s capital.

    Trump’s stated intention to move the embassy has been met with anger in the Arab world for months—the move is controversial due to the city's significance to Jews, Muslims and Christians. Diplomats fear these tensions will come to a head if Trump follows through on his campaign pledge.

    The warning over violence came in the form of two classified cables to staff in the past week, according to Politico.

    The State Department had not responded to a request for comment at the time of writing. Employees at the U.S. embassy in Amman, Jordan, and the U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, declined to comment on the matter. Jerusalem police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld was not available for comment.

    “The impending Jerusalem announcement has me very worried about the possibility of violent responses that could affect embassies,” one State Department official told Politico. “I hope I’m wrong.”

    Rest - http://www.newsweek.com/us-braces-vi...em-move-735059
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    This is one of those Trump things that just boggles the mind. Doesn't he have enough shit to deal with without needlessly rednecking yet another fight? to add to his list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post
    Turkey president Erdogan tells Trump declaring Jerusalem Israel's capital is a 'red line' for Muslims

    City is home to major Muslim, Christian and Jewish holy sites

    Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said Donald Trump's plan to declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel is a "red line" for Muslims and could see him breaking off diplomatic relations with the country.

    Mr Erdogan told parliament his country's response "could go as far as us cutting diplomatic ties with Israel."

    He also said he would convene a summit meeting of countries of the Organisation for Islamic Cooperation to oppose any move recognising Jerusalem.

    American officials have said Mr Trump may recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital this week as a way to offset his likely decision to delay his campaign promise of moving the US embassy there.

    His point-man on the Middle East, son-in-law Jared Kushner, later said the US President hasn't decided yet what steps to take regarding Jerusalem.

    The diplomatic adviser of President Mahmoud Abbas said the Palestinian leadership would "stop contacts" with the United States if Mr Trump recognised Jerusalem and Israel's capital.

    Rest - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8092411.html


    Arab warnings mount as U.S. suggests move to declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel

    JERUSALEM — Arab nations and Palestinian officials have warned of dire consequences if the United States recognizes Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, including potential unrest and an end to the peace process, amid last-minute lobbying to prevent President Trump from making the move.*

    In a late-night call Sunday, Jordan’s foreign minister, Ayman Safadi, warned Secretary of State Rex Tillerson that such a decision could “trigger anger across the Arab and Muslim world, fuel tension and jeopardize peace efforts,” according to Jordan’s state news agency.

    Egypt’s foreign minister, Sameh Shoukry, also discussed with Tillerson the “possible negative impacts” on peace, according to a ministry spokesman. He asked that Tillerson avoid taking decisions that could “stir tensions in the region.”*

    Turkey said a change in policy would be a*“major catastrophe.”*Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki, meanwhile, called for an emergency meeting of the 22 members of the Arab League, which is expected to take place Tuesday.*

    Rest - https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.4310a2b1b3c8


    Screw the koran reading (anti-infidel)..."muslims"..They should worry about themselves and stop making threats...Israel can put American embassy where ever it choose on their land....

    Americans and (Israel) dont like it when koran reading muzzies make threats...they continue to do what they do to the western world every day....ANYWAY...so enough of the muzzie bullshit "threats".

    .....dont talk muzzies...just do it >> and let us get a bead on you...there is no talking with koran reading anti-Infidel Muzzies....you just blow them up...so the silly muzzie threat thing is Like HUH?? "you guys do your bad stuff all over the world any way...so why the silly threats?

    strange Muzzie Fools.....






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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyc View Post

    Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said Donald Trump's plan to declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel is a "red line" for Muslims and could see him breaking off diplomatic relations with the country.

    Mr Erdogan told parliament his country's response "could go as far as us cutting diplomatic ties with Israel."
    I heard Erdogan bellowing this tonight on TV, but it doesn't make a lot of sense: the United States recognizes Jerusalem as the capital and the Turks break relations with .............Israel?? Why not with us? Huh.

    My first thought was there is likely to be trouble --- more terrorism in Israel, at least --- but my second thought was, that Trump sure does keep his campaign promises. And FAST. What a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    This is one of those Trump things that just boggles the mind. Doesn't he have enough shit to deal with without needlessly rednecking yet another fight? to add to his list?
    Trump made the campaign promise that he'd move it. I expect him to fulfill it.

    Congress resolved to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem a long time ago, back in the '90s if I remember right.

    It's Israel's Capitol, our embassy should be there.

    The palestinians - errr... I mean, the displaced Jordanians, Egyptians, Syrians and Lebanese who were abandoned after their countries attempted to wipe out Israel and lost massive tracts of land, abandoned those citizens who found themselves on the wrong side of the new border in the interest of home-grown guerrilla resistance.

    War is a bitch when you lose, and lose badly.

    Those 'palestinians' can pound sand. Israel needs to build a wall around their whole country and summarily deport all of them back to their former countries.

    Worrying about what a bunch of terrorists think is stupid. They're going to want all Americans and Israelis dead no matter what we do. Fuck em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    What does it accomplish other than inflaming tensions?
    This is a good question.

    Well, as I said before, it's another Trump campaign promise he is keeping. People are quickly figuring out that he means to do what he says, and that includes foreign powers, which could make backing off hostiles easier.

    I am assuming that Israel WANTED this?? At this time? Does anyone know? I don't see any articles on that important issue.

    There was of course no percentage in "peace talks." That has never worked for a very long time. What I learned from playing Dark Souls much of this past year is that getting better and better and trying harder and harder with what isn't working is not how to beat the game. Instead try something completely different. Throw things up in the air, when they come down they'll be in a different pattern. Maybe Trump is trying that.

    Another possibility is that it's a plain, clear hard line: we don't like you, Muslims: we're not going to give you what you want anymore. With war against Iran and Pakistan closing in, along with North Korea, maybe it is best to make that clear.

    And saying Jerusalem is the capital is not the same as moving our embassy, which apparently is going to take time, time, time.............. maybe wait till the middle of a war, when it can't get worse anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    What does it accomplish other than inflaming tensions?


    They... Muslim terrorist roaches.. have always been "Inflamed"....

    **Only Liberals talk like that >> "oh...we might get them mad... we better watch out"

    Only thing muslim terrorist koran reading roaches understand is power and strength ...you kill them....no playing around...and keep doing it over and over again...




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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    What does it accomplish other than inflaming tensions?
    Worried about --inflaming the muslim maggots-- are ya??As if appeasing them gets you anything other than stepped up aggression and harm??
    Damn, you libs are about as mart as a box of rocks!! FF-them, give ém hot lead right between those beady hate-filled eyes, the worthless sorry murdering bastards.
    I am amazed at how people lie you ignore what they are!! How people like you chose to ignore reality out of that ever constant state of liberal fear, cowardice and insanity, IMHO. As Islamists murder so many innocent people daily around the world, you worry about making the vermin mad!!!!
    How about being a man and saying lets stop this-- lets kill those terrorist murdering bastards first!!!??????????

    Too bad that your damn worthless muslim president ,the slimeball POS OBAMA, isnt still in charge, eh Petey??? -TYR
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