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    Default Beware of NKorea's upcoming crime against all humanity

    1. Chinese authorities reported that a deadly blast that rocked China's port city of Ningbo on 26 November 2017 was caused by the mishandling of illegal explosives at an abandoned factory. The explosion centred on a septic tank near which a truck loaded with illegally manufactured explosives was parked. The blast killed two people and injured at least 30 others, leaving buildings destroyed and streets littered with damaged cars and debris. Two others were reported missing. The force of the explosion shattered windows in nearby apartments, mangled cars and reduced small buildings to rubble, affecting hundreds of residents. The explosion was so powerful that it was heard several kilometres away.

    2. According to https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world...cid=spartandhp

    (Begin excerpts)
    North Korea's nuclear test in September didn't just generate diplomatic shockwaves but also a 6.3 magnitude earthquake.

    Aftershocks have continued ever since, and on Saturday the US Geological Survey said it had detected two more, sparking significant debate about what might be going on underground...

    Experts have expressed concerns the explosion might have been so powerful it could destabilise the surrounding mountains....

    One of the speculations after the September test was that it would damage the tunnel system North Korea has dug into the mountains at its test site...

    It is unclear whether this process already has rendered the current test site unusable but North Korea has hinted its next nuclear test could be above ground... (End excerpts)

    3. Worshipping the three generations of Kim Dynasty's rulers as Korean gods has become part of a state religion. North Korea is essentially a theocracy. The Kim dynasty is premised on loyalty to the top leader, who long has been treated with reverence and said to be capable of super-human feats. For instance, the state-controlled Korean Central News Agency reported that Fatboy Kim was "in full control of the wind and the snow and the clouds" during his recent ascent up Mount Paektu. And we must not forget North Korea's claim that Kim Jong Il could control the weather too (although both he and Kim Il-Sung proved to be no match for the Grim Reaper).

    When we look back at the massive destruction caused by the recent deadly blast in Ningbo, we can't help wondering the absence of any media report on civilian destruction caused by North Korea's six underground nuclear tests. Perhaps the Kim Dynasty's rulers are really an "Unholy Trinity" of gods (consist of grandfather, father and son) who could perform miracles far more miraculous than the world's official religions so much so that not even a single house has collapsed in the aftermath of their nuclear tests. No wonder Fatboy Kim dares to unveil outrageous new propaganda pictures which show the US being completely obliterated by a dozen nukes. If the US retaliates against such an attack, the fat boy may be able to deflect all US nuclear missiles and breathe fire at America like Godzilla.

    4. The only woman Fatboy Kim trusts to deliver his most important propaganda is the auntie newsreader with the "notorious North Korean Mona Lisa smile". She is said to enjoy a high quality of life among the country's elite in the capital - in stark contrast to other more impoverished civilians. It is predictable what will happen to her if she announces the collapse of any building in the aftermath of a nuclear test. She will be wheeled to somewhere and disappeared forever from the North Korean TV screen. Since China and Russia have been outplayed by their North Korean small brother (or rather Big Brother) in power play and state propaganda, it is high time to for them to get their newsreaders to dress in national costumes and speak like the North Korean auntie.

    After joking about the Unholy Trinity, I have to point out a possible disaster faced by all mankind. The rogue regime is pursuing its nuclear ambitions without caring a damn for the lives and welfare of its people. Lately it has hinted its next nuclear test could be above ground. This reveals serious problems caused by geographical restrictions at home for its underground nuclear tests.

    North Korea certainly could not conduct any nuclear test above ground on its own soil without causing more harm to its population as it is a small densely-populated region compared to the US, Russia and China. The rogue regime, however, is determined to pursue its nuclear ambitions at all costs. The alternative places for such tests are off its coasts such as the Sea of Japan or the Pacific Ocean.

    If the regime goes ahead with such a nuclear test, it will undoubtedly commit a great crime against all humanity. Will all nations (including North Korea's "small brothers" China and Russia) take action to crush the rogue regime like a cockroach? The lungs of humans and other mammals will be filled with radioactive materials blown from the nuclear test site. The water of the oceans will be contaminated with radioactive materials which can enter human bodies through fishes and other marine resources before most sea creatures go extinct.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world...cid=spartandhp

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ess-world.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7930626.html

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/426309...hin-our-range/

    https://superiorthan.com/superior/Go...-King-Kong-379

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ng-il-birthday

    https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nucleartesttally

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp...es-police.html

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_35118294.htm
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    way too much to digest.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    way too much to digest.
    Perhaps when the time comes for all people to digest the radioactive materials from North Korea's nuclear tests, we won't find it "way too much to digest". If we see everyone dies of radioactivity in front of us, the only fear is to be left all alone in this world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reedak View Post
    Perhaps when the time comes for all people to digest the radioactive materials from North Korea's nuclear tests, we won't find it "way too much to digest". If we see everyone dies of radioactivity in front of us, the only fear is to be left all alone in this world.
    Okay.

    But in terms of getting a point across, often less is more. Or fewer is more - when it comes to words.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    Okay.

    But in terms of getting a point across, often less is more. Or fewer is more - when it comes to words.
    Okay.

    As the saying goes, "A picture is worth a thousand words."

    Next time if I can get hold of a photo of North Korea's nuclear test over the Pacific Ocean or the Sea of Japan, I'll just post it in the forum.


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    Quote Originally Posted by reedak View Post
    Okay.

    As the saying goes, "A picture is worth a thousand words."

    Next time if I can get hold of a photo of North Korea's nuclear test over the Pacific Ocean or the Sea of Japan, I'll just post it in the forum.
    As Darin's saying goes - if you want-best to communicate a topic with the forum, sometimes flooding them with information makes the whole thing "tl/dr"




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    Quote Originally Posted by reedak View Post
    1. Chinese authorities reported that a deadly blast that rocked China's port city of Ningbo on 26 November 2017 was caused by the mishandling of illegal explosives at an abandoned factory. The explosion centred on a septic tank near which a truck loaded with illegally manufactured explosives was parked. The blast killed two people and injured at least 30 others, leaving buildings destroyed and streets littered with damaged cars and debris. Two others were reported missing. The force of the explosion shattered windows in nearby apartments, mangled cars and reduced small buildings to rubble, affecting hundreds of residents. The explosion was so powerful that it was heard several kilometres away.

    2. According to https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world...cid=spartandhp

    (Begin excerpts)
    North Korea's nuclear test in September didn't just generate diplomatic shockwaves but also a 6.3 magnitude earthquake.

    Aftershocks have continued ever since, and on Saturday the US Geological Survey said it had detected two more, sparking significant debate about what might be going on underground...

    Experts have expressed concerns the explosion might have been so powerful it could destabilise the surrounding mountains....

    One of the speculations after the September test was that it would damage the tunnel system North Korea has dug into the mountains at its test site...

    It is unclear whether this process already has rendered the current test site unusable but North Korea has hinted its next nuclear test could be above ground... (End excerpts)

    3. Worshipping the three generations of Kim Dynasty's rulers as Korean gods has become part of a state religion. North Korea is essentially a theocracy. The Kim dynasty is premised on loyalty to the top leader, who long has been treated with reverence and said to be capable of super-human feats. For instance, the state-controlled Korean Central News Agency reported that Fatboy Kim was "in full control of the wind and the snow and the clouds" during his recent ascent up Mount Paektu. And we must not forget North Korea's claim that Kim Jong Il could control the weather too (although both he and Kim Il-Sung proved to be no match for the Grim Reaper).

    When we look back at the massive destruction caused by the recent deadly blast in Ningbo, we can't help wondering the absence of any media report on civilian destruction caused by North Korea's six underground nuclear tests. Perhaps the Kim Dynasty's rulers are really an "Unholy Trinity" of gods (consist of grandfather, father and son) who could perform miracles far more miraculous than the world's official religions so much so that not even a single house has collapsed in the aftermath of their nuclear tests. No wonder Fatboy Kim dares to unveil outrageous new propaganda pictures which show the US being completely obliterated by a dozen nukes. If the US retaliates against such an attack, the fat boy may be able to deflect all US nuclear missiles and breathe fire at America like Godzilla.

    4. The only woman Fatboy Kim trusts to deliver his most important propaganda is the auntie newsreader with the "notorious North Korean Mona Lisa smile". She is said to enjoy a high quality of life among the country's elite in the capital - in stark contrast to other more impoverished civilians. It is predictable what will happen to her if she announces the collapse of any building in the aftermath of a nuclear test. She will be wheeled to somewhere and disappeared forever from the North Korean TV screen. Since China and Russia have been outplayed by their North Korean small brother (or rather Big Brother) in power play and state propaganda, it is high time to for them to get their newsreaders to dress in national costumes and speak like the North Korean auntie.

    After joking about the Unholy Trinity, I have to point out a possible disaster faced by all mankind. The rogue regime is pursuing its nuclear ambitions without caring a damn for the lives and welfare of its people. Lately it has hinted its next nuclear test could be above ground. This reveals serious problems caused by geographical restrictions at home for its underground nuclear tests.

    North Korea certainly could not conduct any nuclear test above ground on its own soil without causing more harm to its population as it is a small densely-populated region compared to the US, Russia and China. The rogue regime, however, is determined to pursue its nuclear ambitions at all costs. The alternative places for such tests are off its coasts such as the Sea of Japan or the Pacific Ocean.

    If the regime goes ahead with such a nuclear test, it will undoubtedly commit a great crime against all humanity. Will all nations (including North Korea's "small brothers" China and Russia) take action to crush the rogue regime like a cockroach? The lungs of humans and other mammals will be filled with radioactive materials blown from the nuclear test site. The water of the oceans will be contaminated with radioactive materials which can enter human bodies through fishes and other marine resources before most sea creatures go extinct.

    https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world...cid=spartandhp

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ess-world.html

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7930626.html

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/426309...hin-our-range/

    https://superiorthan.com/superior/Go...-King-Kong-379

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ng-il-birthday

    https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nucleartesttally

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp...es-police.html

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2...t_35118294.htm
    Thanks...looks like a lot of interesting info...on way to work will check it out when I get back.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post
    Thanks...looks like a lot of interesting info...on way to work will check it out when I get back.
    No mention of President Bill Clinton giving North KOREA ITS NUKES, AND 5 BILLION DOLLARS.. HMMMMMMM
    Or the scum obama's friendship with NK.-- Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reedak View Post
    Okay.

    As the saying goes, "A picture is worth a thousand words."

    Next time if I can get hold of a photo of North Korea's nuclear test over the Pacific Ocean or the Sea of Japan, I'll just post it in the forum.


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    What are telling anyone we DON'T already know? Everyone here understands North Korea is a problem. Got it. You keep inundating us with verbosity; yet, propose no solution. Just what are YOUR options on handling the situation?

    If you're going to post an emoticon of a Marine, then you get treated like one, so I'll tell you what MY Gunny told me when I was a low-life, unworthy Private -- don't come running to me with your problem WITHOUT bringing YOUR proposed solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongTermGuy View Post
    Thanks...looks like a lot of interesting info...on way to work will check it out when I get back.

    I have to thank you, LongTermGuy, for appreciating my post. Perhaps you have spotted the "jewels" which our honourable darin has treated as "stones". The "jewels" are my jokes that poke fun at the divine myth and super-human feats of the Kim Dynasty's rulers, the cute North Korean auntie newsreader and the subservient attitude of the rogue regime's "small brothers" China and Russia.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    No mention of President Bill Clinton giving North KOREA ITS NUKES, AND 5 BILLION DOLLARS.. HMMMMMMM
    Or the scum obama's friendship with NK.-- Tyr
    In contrast to our honourable darin's appetite, it seems that what I have dished out is too little for you.


    If I have included your choice on my menu, he would have been screaming "Scum, scum, scum.....I found it hard to stomach 'scum obama's friendship with NK'!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by reedak View Post
    [many, many, many words]

    That was an interesting thread heading, but you didn't answer the question you posed: what IS the North Korean crime against humanity to which you refer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    how did you get a pic of @Gunny
    Gunny has carelessly left his pic lying around for anyone to pick it up. He needs to be punished for his carelessness, or we can use Trump's fateful catch phrase for Gunny:
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    Quote Originally Posted by mundame View Post
    That was an interesting thread heading, but you didn't answer the question you posed: what IS the North Korean crime against humanity to which you refer?
    It's the "upcoming" crime, if North Korea goes ahead with the next move it has hinted to conduct a nuclear test above ground. We don't expect the rogue regime to be so foolish as to test a nuclear bomb on its own soil because North Korea is a small densely-populated region. The most likely place to conduct a nuclear test above ground should be either over the Pacific Ocean or the Sea of Japan. The outcome would be contaminating the atmosphere and ocean water with radioactive materials, thus endangering the lives of mankind and all other living things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reedak View Post
    ...The most likely place to conduct a nuclear test above ground should be either over the Pacific Ocean or the Sea of Japan. The outcome would be contaminating the atmosphere and ocean water with radioactive materials, thus endangering the lives of mankind and all other living things.

    I see. Yes, that is likely to get some push-back, if they try it. Thanks for your reply.

    I thought you might be referring to NOKO nuking Washington or EMP-ing the whole USA, but atmospheric testing over the Pacific would be an interesting interim step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mundame View Post
    I see. Yes, that is likely to get some push-back, if they try it. Thanks for your reply.

    I thought you might be referring to NOKO nuking Washington or EMP-ing the whole USA, but atmospheric testing over the Pacific would be an interesting interim step.
    It is amazing that you regard atmospheric testing over the Pacific as an "interesting interim step" as though you are unaware of the serious consequences of such a test. If it happens, it would be a nightmare for all mankind and other living things.

    According to the latest news report, Fatboy Kim said North Korea "will victoriously advance and leap as the strongest nuclear power and military power in the world".

    Let us look at the implications and consequences before and after if North Korea becomes "the strongest nuclear power and military power in the world".

    Before
    1. To achieve its goal, North Korea must conduct many more nuclear tests. It cannot continue its underground tests because the tremors and aftershocks will bring down more buildings. Neither can it conduct the nuclear tests above its own land as the small country will bomb itself out of this world. The suitable place for conducting such nuclear tests would be over the Pacific Ocean or the Sea of Japan.

    2. It must conduct many missile tests to ensure that they could hit the distant targets accurately.

    After
    1. If North Korea can become the strongest nuclear power and military power in the world, the US will have to give way to take second place.

    2. Then North Korea should have more nuclear bombs than the US or Russia to destroy the Earth several times over.

    3. By then, North Korea will have no fear of the US or Russia or China or Japan.

    4. Looking at North Korea's aggressive behaviour today "before the feathers on its wings have fully grown", we can imagine how it will behave "when all its feathers on its wings have grown". If it can become the number one superpower, it will push its way around the world using nuclear blackmail.

    5. Its first target of imperialist expansion would be South Korea which could be easily "swallowed" by it like the Russian annexation of Crimea. Its second target could be China's northeastern region which had been the site of an ancient Korean kingdom.

    6. After that, it may go on a global expansion like those of the Huns and Mongols.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/62047751.cms
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    Quote Originally Posted by reedak View Post
    It is amazing that you regard atmospheric testing over the Pacific as an "interesting interim step" as though you are unaware of the serious consequences of such a test. If it happens, it would be a nightmare for all mankind and other living things.

    According to the latest news report, Fatboy Kim said North Korea "will victoriously advance and leap as the strongest nuclear power and military power in the world".

    Let us look at the implications and consequences before and after if North Korea becomes "the strongest nuclear power and military power in the world".

    Before
    1. To achieve its goal, North Korea must conduct many more nuclear tests. It cannot continue its underground tests because the tremors and aftershocks will bring down more buildings. Neither can it conduct the nuclear tests above its own land as the small country will bomb itself out of this world. The suitable place for conducting such nuclear tests would be over the Pacific Ocean or the Sea of Japan.

    2. It must conduct many missile tests to ensure that they could hit the distant targets accurately.

    After
    1. If North Korea can become the strongest nuclear power and military power in the world, the US will have to give way to take second place.

    2. Then North Korea should have more nuclear bombs than the US or Russia to destroy the Earth several times over.

    3. By then, North Korea will have no fear of the US or Russia or China or Japan.

    4. Looking at North Korea's aggressive behaviour today "before the feathers on its wings have fully grown", we can imagine how it will behave "when all its feathers on its wings have grown". If it can become the number one superpower, it will push its way around the world using nuclear blackmail.

    5. Its first target of imperialist expansion would be South Korea which could be easily "swallowed" by it like the Russian annexation of Crimea. Its second target could be China's northeastern region which had been the site of an ancient Korean kingdom.

    6. After that, it may go on a global expansion like those of the Huns and Mongols.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/62047751.cms
    Your 'before' scenario is reasonable (thanks for your posts here, by the way).

    Your 'after' scenario is at best 'fanciful'. It would, and could, never come about. N Korea becoming any form of 'superpower' ... seriously ? ? No current 'superpower' would stand for such a thing. Believing that Trump would, qualifies one for an inmate's position in a lunatic asylum ... I think that probably the same could be said for Putin. Not even China would tolerate such a status quo.

    Unless North Korea changes course .... it's not a question of 'if' action may be taken, just 'when'. I'm sure everyone in a position to initiate it doesn't exactly like the prospect, and maybe would rather defer it ... BUT ... that's a far cry from accepting the need for action. There are only two options:

    1. Bad Haircut Boy sees sense and calls off his agenda of belligerence (with or without the intervention of psychiatric assistance, or maybe some sort of coup ?).

    2. Military action IS taken, to neutralise the threat he poses to world security (perhaps co-ordinated in principle, maybe also in 'hardware terms', between the current superpowers ?)
    It's That Bloody Foreigner Again !!!

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