Antonio Brown and Ben Roethlisberger are the best QB/WR tandem of all time

[gabosaurus]

And I got YEARS on any other Steelers fan here. I'm just not as psycho as one in particular .

The National Anthem is played at NFL games to honor veterans. You disrespect it, you disrespect them. End of story. The game is football. Cry on your own time.

I could care less. But one of my best friends was born in a suburb of Pittsburgh, into a family of diehard Steelers fans that have held tickets for over 70 years. Someone who has been to three Super Bowls and will be spending Christmas Day in Houston, watching the Steelers play.

The National Anthem is played at NFL games to honor EVERYONE in our country, which includes veterans. No one disrespects anyone by refusing to stand. It is not required. The national anthem and the game of football (or any sport, on any level) are entirely different. Nothing connects them. Also, the actions of a few should not taint the actions of the majority. I think you are being oversensitive.

[Abbey Marie]

Prob the best: Montana/Rice

My personal favorite, though: Warner/Fitzgerald

[Abbey Marie]

I could care less. But one of my best friends was born in a suburb of Pittsburgh, into a family of diehard Steelers fans that have held tickets for over 70 years. Someone who has been to three Super Bowls and will be spending Christmas Day in Houston, watching the Steelers play.

The National Anthem is played at NFL games to honor EVERYONE in our country, which includes veterans. No one disrespects anyone by refusing to stand. It is not required. The national anthem and the game of football (or any sport, on any level) are entirely different. Nothing connects them. Also, the actions of a few should not taint the actions of the majority. I think you are being oversensitive.

Gonna disagree. The Anthem is played to honor our country, which our flag represents. The military defend our country, with their lives, so they are given special respect when we honor it. From Washington's troops, to our current service men and women, we lose everything without their sacrifices. Trying to separate the two for political reasons is unnecessarily disrespectful to them.

[Gunny]

Prob the best: Montana/Rice

My personal favorite, though: Warner/Fitzgerald

It's in all actuality a hard choice. I listen to these stats all the time and usually roll my eyes. It's like saying Muhammed Ali would have beat Lennox Lewis. the stats/polls or whatever always come from the perspective of the age of the person pimping them, and their bias for or not for different teams.

Like people thinking Terry Bradshaw was great. Not only was he a horse's ass, but Noll tried his damnedest to get rid of him until Bradshaw pulled his head out of ass. Bradshaw basically sucked as a QB his first few years and did well only after a team was built he couldn't screw up. And that's from a 70s Steelers fan.

A lot is also contingent on the team and the team's gameplan. Rice and Montana were a perfect fit for Walsh. There are countless instances of players whose heads got too big for the team and went to a different system and failed. Duane Thomas always comes to mind. He went from SB winner and NFC leading rusher to sitting on the bench n SD because once he left the Cowboys, he was done. Running backs that don't appreciate the system they are in and their line screw themselves. QBs and receivers as well. Moss hated being in Dallas. He wasn't the show like he was on the Vikings.

Staubach and Pearson were one of the best tandems. Aikman-Irvin. Griese-Warfield. It's all a popularity contest in the end. The people that use stats just try to justify their favorite as being best.

[Russ]

I have to agree with Joe Montana-Jerry Rice, with honorable mention to Steve Young-Jerry Rice, Kurt Warner-Larry Fitzgerald and Kurt Warner-Isaac Bruce.

I can't credit Aikman-Irvin, because Michael Irvin basically made a career out of pushing off the guy covering him, and the refs seemed to allow it because "that's his move".

[Gunny]

I have to agree with Joe Montana-Jerry Rice, with honorable mention to Steve Young-Jerry Rice, Kurt Warner-Larry Fitzgerald and Kurt Warner-Isaac Bruce.

I can't credit Aikman-Irvin, because Michael Irvin basically made a career out of pushing off the guy covering him, and the refs seemed to allow it because "that's his move".

Irvin didn't get away with it any more than anyone else. You sound suspiciously like you share the little lady's love for the Giants Irvin was good because of Harper, and the TE. When Harper left, Irvin wasn't quite so good. Harper disappeared (in Tampa). And Odell Beckham the 23rd ain't exactly a saint.

Again, you're talking 80s-90s QBs. They aren't "the best" because that's what your generation remembers. I say the same about late-60s - 70s. WAY better than anything that followed. And you could tackle the QB then. He wasn't protected.

All perspective. I think the Lakers and Warriors foul the Spurs on EVERY play

[Russ]

Irvin didn't get away with it any more than anyone else. You sound suspiciously like you share the little lady's love for the Giants Irvin was good because of Harper, and the TE. When Harper left, Irvin wasn't quite so good. Harper disappeared (in Tampa). And Odell Beckham the 23rd ain't exactly a saint.

Again, you're talking 80s-90s QBs. They aren't "the best" because that's what your generation remembers. I say the same about late-60s - 70s. WAY better than anything that followed. And you could tackle the QB then. He wasn't protected.

All perspective. I think the Lakers and Warriors foul the Spurs on EVERY play

Ha and Lol! If you think I share the little lady's love for the Giants, then you don't know Russ!

I still think that Irvin was good mostly because he was allowed to push off, but I will give you this - he was absolutely GREAT at pushing off. Granted, almost all receivers push off, but not like Michael. If you were covering Irvin at the 50 yard line and he gave you a pushoff, you suddenly found yourself at the 40 yard line. That alone deserves a few HoF votes.

[Gunny]

Ha and Lol! If you think I share the little lady's love for the Giants, then you don't know Russ!

I still think that Irvin was good mostly because he was allowed to push off, but I will give you this - he was absolutely GREAT at pushing off. Granted, almost all receivers push off, but not like Michael. If you were covering Irvin at the 50 yard line and he gave you a pushoff, you suddenly found yourself at the 40 yard line. That alone deserves a few HoF votes.

Wow. LOL. He wasn't THAT bad. Unless you're a Giants, Eagles or Deadskins then. THEN it goes without saying ....

They let receivers get away with murder ever since they started making rule changes that favor them back in the 80s. They claimed ti was to speed up the game and allow for more scoring. They've done a LOT to just ruin the game since I started watching pro football.

The STILL say Fred Biletnikoff was one of the best ever receivers and that dude had stick-em hanging from his ears. You could see it all over his socks and hands. They made it against the rules in the late 70s. But at the time, Stabler to Biletnikoff was as good as anyone. Sonny Jurgenson to Taylor (the bastards). Tarkenton to Gilliam. They were ALL good and usually in different ways from each other. Namath to Maynard and Sauer.

[del]

unitas/berry

[Black Diamond]

unitas/berry

Super bowl XX connection.

[Black Diamond]

Cunningham/moss

[Abbey Marie]

Irvin didn't get away with it any more than anyone else. You sound suspiciously like you share the little lady's love for the Giants Irvin was good because of Harper, and the TE. When Harper left, Irvin wasn't quite so good. Harper disappeared (in Tampa). And Odell Beckham the 23rd ain't exactly a saint.

Again, you're talking 80s-90s QBs. They aren't "the best" because that's what your generation remembers. I say the same about late-60s - 70s. WAY better than anything that followed. And you could tackle the QB then. He wasn't protected.

All perspective. I think the Lakers and Warriors foul the Spurs on EVERY play

Gunny, I've never seen you be more wrong. There were Giants/Eagles arguments in this household where I had to leave the room. You goof!

[jimnyc]

Daunte Culpepper to Randy Moss.

But then the idiot Culpepper went and hurt himself, and that was the end of that duo! But that's where Moss got his start.

[Gunny]

Gunny, I've never seen you be more wrong. There were Giants/Eagles arguments in this household where I had to leave the room. You goof!

Giants and Eagles? Hope you BOTH lost

[Black Diamond]

Giants and Eagles? Hope you BOTH lost

It's spoiler time me thinks