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    Default The Bible is Mistranslated - Sin Means Monetary Debt

    Professor and researcher, Michael Hudson, says the Holy Bible has been mistranslated for a long time. He says that "sin" means monetary debt, and that the "forgiveness of sins" means a debt jubilee, like they did in ancient times, which is like bankruptcy today. Sin doesn't mean a moral interpretation of right and wrong. Therefore, Jesus died for our monetary debts.

    I've long said, religion is nothing more than man's attempt to deny himself the importance of money. I've never believed in the concept of "Original Sin" or that I'm condemned for not accepting Jesus. Then consider the weird mushroom cult stuff of Ancient Hebrews and Churches, today's churches and synagogues are even weirder because their legacy is forgotten.

    Also, because they don't know where they came from, many churches are split by schisms; abortion, gay marriage, gay ministry, differing biblical interpretations. The Church of England will soon split over the issue of sodomy. Although you don't have to be religious to know that sodomy is wrong, you just have to be a pervert to know that sodomy is right.

    Here's some recent populist nonsense you'll hear in many churches: "God hates the sin but loves the sinner." Wrong. That's like saying, "God loves purple but red and blue." Churches have become schizophrenic. Ever since the burning of the Library in Alexandria, the single most disastrous event in human history, nothing's been the same.

    Anyway, here's the link to Michael Hudson and the real meaning of sin:

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017...-not-sins.html

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    he's wrong too. his premise is ridiculous.

    (shrug)

    Luke uses 'hamartía' - which means in essence 'a self-created failure - to miss the mark, to fail, a failure or failures." In the context of the prayer it's rightly translated as 'sin'.

    Mathew prefered opheiletēs - in talking about those who owe us by means of them failing us. In the context of the prayer it's rightly translated as 'those who sin against us'

    But taking specific words without considering common use and context shows intellectual dishonesty.

    More silliness in that link:

    "...Crucifixion being a punishment reserved especially for political dissidents."

    Such bullshit because to the Romans anything counter-roman-law was 'political dissidence' in a way. It's like saying "They did that only for criminals!" Stupid. Written account tells us Romans crucified as a punishment for traitors, rebels, robbers and criminal slaves. Rudimentary research would have brought that to light before the guy wrote his dribble.


    Adding to that - if one believes scripture, one knows 'sin' or 'debts' are already paid and over-with. The ending has already happened or is-happening in one big cosmic 'now' as God resides outside of time itself. Thus, everything that 'will' happen from our perspective has already happened from another perspective. And sin and death are no-more and there is nothing to stress, debate, worry, accuse, or feel guilty about.

    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darin View Post
    he's wrong too. his premise is ridiculous.

    (shrug)

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    More silliness in that link:

    "...Crucifixion being a punishment reserved especially for political dissidents."

    Such bullshit because to the Romans anything counter-roman-law was 'political dissidence' in a way. It's like saying "They did that only for criminals!" Stupid. Written account tells us Romans crucified as a punishment for traitors, rebels, robbers and criminal slaves. Rudimentary research would have brought that to light before the guy wrote his dribble.
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    Yup. I thought everyone knew the Bible says there was plain ol' thief on one side of Jesus.
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    Default Imo....

    GRAVY BOAT IS SIN...in his own words.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA - IN GOD WE TRUST !

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    I see the peanut gallery has made their showing, all nuts, all the time, no waiting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GravyBoat View Post
    I see the peanut gallery has made their showing, all nuts, all the time, no waiting.

    Says the anti-American self loathing Anti-Semitic Jew who thinks the World Trade Center collapsing is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GravyBoat View Post
    I see the peanut gallery has made their showing, all nuts, all the time, no waiting.


    Yes, we long-time members who post here all the time wouldn't be so rude as to ignore you. We have sooo much to teach you. But I suspect it is just pearls before swine in your case.

    However, do tell me, do you think the collapse of the WTC is funny, or are you that confused choosing avatars? It's kinda important, so please do answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GravyBoat View Post
    I see the peanut gallery has made their showing, all nuts, all the time, no waiting.

    Peanut gallery? Looks to me like the person you completely failed to respond to - darin - hammered your lame ass into peanut butter.
    Last edited by Gunny; 12-28-2017 at 04:08 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Yes, we long-time members who post here all the time wouldn't be so rude as to ignore you. We have sooo much to teach you. But I suspect it is just pearls before swine in your case.

    However, do tell me, do you think the collapse of the WTC is funny, or are you that confused choosing avatars? It's kinda important, so please do answer.
    No, of course the collapse of the WTC isn't funny, I didn't realize y'all were so offended by it. Do you think I should get a new one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Peanut gallery? Looks to me like the person you completely failed to respond to - darin - hammered your lame ass into peanut butter.
    No, I responded to Darin. See where I said "all nuts, all the time". And that goes for you, too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GravyBoat View Post
    No, I responded to Darin. See where I said "all nuts, all the time". And that goes for you, too.

    Incorrect. Had you responded to Darin in kind there would be something semi-intelligent spewing forth from your over-used probably in both directions suck. Your response translates into: "Wah! I just took the big green one high and hard in the bobo by one of my betters."

    As far as it going for "me too", that's nice. I didn't bother to respond to your blather as it is some goofball's fantasy from the first sentence; therefore, your cheese-dick response would NOT apply to me.

    But you keep on trying shit for brains. Didn't momma hug you enough as a baby? Or'd you get dropped on your grape into a sewer?
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    Default Gravy has had his fun, stirring up whatever hatred he could...which equates to STUPID

    GRAVY BOATS equate to Trolls, floating in cesspool water, treated with Liberal amounts of DNC generated Lies. The outcome will finally be the result of DRAINING GRAVY BOATS from the SWAMP of IGNORANCE, HATRED, AND STUPIDITY.

    The entertainment factor of members like GRAVY are as funny as Roadkill on I-95.

    REST IN PEACE GRAVY....
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GravyBoat View Post
    No, of course the collapse of the WTC isn't funny, I didn't realize y'all were so offended by it. Do you think I should get a new one?
    So what did the avatar mean then? Maybe I am missing the point...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    So what did the avatar mean then? Maybe I am missing the point...
    Looked prety anti-US and disrespectful toward victims' families from where I sit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    So what did the avatar mean then? Maybe I am missing the point...
    It was Sideshow Bob from 'The Simpsons' is what it means.

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