Really? Is that why more and more Americans are ready to retreat in Iraq ?Originally Posted by red states rule
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Really? Is that why more and more Americans are ready to retreat in Iraq ?
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Polls show they are willing to give the surge a chance. Again, libs see a failure in Iraq a loss for Bush and not America
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oh really?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...lup-poll_x.htm
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Poli...TroopSurge.htm
http://www.pewtrusts.com/ideas/ideas...rvey%20Results
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/inde...m/itemID/14350
http://www.pollster.com/mystery_poll...nd_diverge.php
it would appear that polls do not show what you suggest they do.
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Most Americans want to succeed in Iraq (except the kook left) and war is not run by polls
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The War in Iraq
Guidance for Lawmakers
Most Americans support the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, but there is only limited support for an immediate withdrawal (there is also only limited support for increased troop levels).
Americans are divided on whether the United States should institute a timetable for withdrawal, or stay until it has achieved all its goals. When asked, Americans seem to prefer keeping troops for only about another year, but they expect troops to be there longer than that.
In general, public support for the war is generally divided; however, since the summer of 2005, opponents have tended to outnumber supporters.
Fine Print
Opinions on the war have been sensitive to the news out of Iraq. Opinions grew more positive after Saddam Hussein's capture in December 2003 and after the first elections in Iraq in late January 2005. They grew more negative when George W. Bush asked for more money to fight the war in September 2003, after insurgents killed U.S. troops in Fallujah, and when U.S. troops were found to have abused Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib in the spring of 2004.
Context
Most Americans believe the United States can win the war in Iraq, but less than half believe it will. That could be an indictment of Bush's handling of the war; his approval ratings on the Iraq issue have been in the 40% range for the better part of the past year.
Though overall support for the war is divided, most Americans believe the war is not going well for the United States and believe the United States is not winning. This has been the view since September 2003, though there have been a few exceptions following positive news out of Iraq.
Urgency: Overall Importance as Political Issue
Iraq typically ranks at or near the top of the list when Americans are asked to assess the importance of various issues to their votes.
Along with the economy, Iraq consistently ranks at the top of Gallup's open-ended "most important problem" question.
Impact on 2006 Vote
Given its high salience with the public, there is reason to believe Iraq will be a dominant issue in the 2006 midterm elections.
Democrats are now seen as better on the issue, which is notable because Republicans typically have an edge on international issues, and had been seen as better on the issue at the beginning of the war.
Key Subgroup Differences
Views of the Iraq war are extremely partisan. Republicans overwhelmingly support the war; Democrats overwhelmingly oppose it. Independents tend to be more opposed than in favor of the war.
Support for past U.S. wars -- including Vietnam -- was not as polarized along party lines as the current war.
The Bottom Line
The war is an extremely high-priority issue for Americans and is likely to be one of the top issues in this year's elections. Americans are divided on the war, largely along partisan lines. Despite sentiment that the war is not going well for the United States, only about one in five favors an immediate withdrawal of troops. Most do support a gradual withdrawal of troops, preferably within a year, but close to half may be willing to keep troops there longer to achieve U.S. goals.
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/default.aspx?ci=1633
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and this has something to do with supporting a return to Reagan policy ?
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We learned when Reagan pulled out after the Marine barracks attack, if you show weakness to terrorists (as we did during the eight years of Clinton) they will keep coming at you
Libs seem to think if the US runs away from Iraq, the terrorists will change their ways and become law abiding citizens
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Look...you were the one who said that polls showed a willingness to give the surge a chance...I dispute that assertion. I certainly think that nearly ALL Americans want us to succeed in Iraq..... it is in the definition of "success" that there is a lack of unanimity.
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Liberals do NOT want success in Iraq. Libs see a lossin Iraq as a defeat for Pres Bush. They are to blinded by their hate to see it is a loss for America and a huge win for the terrorists
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Fox News has released a poll that proves once again that Democrats either don’t want us to win in Iraq, or at the very least “don’t know” if they do, which is just as bad (emphasis added):
Do you personally want the Iraq plan President Bush announced last week to succeed?
Overall: 63% Yes 22% No 15% Don’t Know
Democrats: 51% Yes 34% No 15% Don’t Know
Republicans: 79% Yes 11% No 10% Don’t Know
Independents: 63% Yes 19% No 17% Don’t Know
I noted another poll which documented the Dem’s desire for the President to fail in Iraq in this post last September, but some people complained that the question, which read “would you say you want President Bush to succeed or not?” was ‘too vague’ because it didn’t specifically mention Iraq, even though we all know that Iraq is the issue and has been since even before the war started. In any event, there’s no mistaking it now: 34% of Dems want us to fail in Iraq, and 15% “don’t know” which to me is the same thing, because if you have to even consider whether or not you want the President to fail in Iraq, then you haven’t taken hoping for failure off the table.
What other tidbits did we find out from the latest Fox poll?
16. If you were a member of Congress, how would you vote specifically on increasing U.S. troop levels in Iraq — would you vote for or against funding the increase in troops?
Overall: 38% For 57% Against 5% Don’t know
Democrats: 17% For 79% Against 4% Don’t know
Republicans: 64% For 32% Against 4% Don’t know
Independents: 39% For 52% Against 9% Don’t know
That’s not really that surprising though, but this one should be (emphasis added):
17. Regardless of how you would vote on sending more troops to Iraq — If you were a member of Congress, would you vote to continue funding the current level of U.S. troops in Iraq or would you vote against funding the war altogether to try to force a troop withdrawal?
Overall: 52% Yes 41% No 6% Don’t know
Democrats: 33% Yes 59% No 8% Don’t know
Republicans: 77% Yes 19% No 4% Don’t know
Independents: 53% Yes 43% No 4% Don’t know
Got that? 59% of Democrats say they would vote against funding the current level of US troops in Iraq in order to try and force a troop withdrawal and 8% “don’t know” (uh huh).
Bbbbut they support the troops.
Right?
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...oxnewspoll.pdf
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that is not the case. President Bush is not running for election again.... I have no desire to see American troops sacrificed for a stupid stupid war, but I do not want America to EVER fail. You do yourself a disservice by restating that inflammatory and inaccurate position.
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