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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Because I'm ancient I remember being taught in elementary school that all the media in Russia was contolled by the state to control the minds of it's citizens. Now I see rich Americans trying to do the same thing in here. Both whine about the spin coming from the "other" side. Isn't whining symptomatic of someone who is losing and frustrated ?
    Unlike in Russia, we have a choice. Libs are pissed because a growing number of people are making the choice they want them to make


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Unlike in Russia, we have a choice. Libs are pissed because a growing number of people are making the choice they want them to make
    And conservatives are pissed at the MSM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    And conservatives are pissed at the MSM.
    We are not pissed. We are beating them and they are pissed


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    We are not pissed. We are beating them and they are pissed
    Really? Is that why more and more Americans are ready to retreat in Iraq ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    And conservatives are pissed at the MSM.
    The conservatives are not ticked off at the MSM. Conservatives took ACTION against the MSM, by creating their own venues. What ticks off conservatives is that the liberals want to take away/silence those venues. Conservatives are ticked off bc liberals attempt to limit their speech and mold their thoughts. Liberals are ticked off simply bc people think differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Really? Is that why more and more Americans are ready to retreat in Iraq ?
    Polls show they are willing to give the surge a chance. Again, libs see a failure in Iraq a loss for Bush and not America


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nienna View Post
    The conservatives are not ticked off at the MSM. Conservatives took ACTION against the MSM, by creating their own venues. What ticks off conservatives is that the liberals want to take away/silence those venues. Conservatives are ticked off bc liberals attempt to limit their speech and mold their thoughts. Liberals are ticked off simply bc people think differently.
    Conservatives aren't ticked off at the MSM ??? What have you been reading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Conservatives aren't ticked off at the MSM ??? What have you been reading?
    The MSM is pissed at conservatives. Mostly because we point out theri liberal bias


    Like this................


    The New York Times caught this bit of lefty incivility at Saturday's protest against the occupation of Iraq …

    There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq …

    ... as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back. Capitol police made the antiwar protestors walk farther away from the counterprotesters. "These are not Americans as far as I'm concerned," Mr. Sparling said.

    The Washington Post characterized Sparling's participation like this:

    At least one veteran from the Iraq war tried to bridge the divide between the groups. Cpl. Joshua Sparling, 25, from Port Huron, Mich., who lost his right leg below the knee in an 2005 explosion in Ramadi, spoke to both groups.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Conservatives aren't ticked off at the MSM ??? What have you been reading?
    Not really. Conservatives may hate the lies spread around by the MSM, but they are still willing that the MSM have their free speech. Conservatives are ticked off at the LIBERALS who want to silence conservative free speech and make the MSM the only venue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nienna View Post
    Not really. Conservatives may hate the lies spread around by the MSM, but they are still willing that the MSM have their free speech. Conservatives are ticked off at the LIBERALS who want to silence conservative free speech and make the MSM the only venue.
    Like this?


    AP: Forgets to Mention Al Franken is Liberal in Senate Run Announcements
    Posted by Warner Todd Huston on January 31, 2007 - 21:21.
    This is amusing for it's total ridiculousness. In the AP story about upcoming Senate campaign of Al Franken, the soon to be ex-Air America ranter and supposed comedian, AP seems to have forgotten to mention he is a liberal.

    The short AP blurb doesn't mention it at all: Short AP Version.

    And the long piece gives no hint of Franken's leanings until the last line of the report: Long AP Version

    And even the long piece does not state Franken's leftist positioning as a fact, but couches it as the claim of a political science professor. And they don't even introduce the label until the very last paragraph of a ten paragraph story.

    Franken faces major challenges, said Larry Jacobs, a political science professor at the University of Minnesota. Besides needing to establish himself as a serious candidate, Franken has staked out left-wing policies that make it questionable whether he can win independent voters, Jacobs said.

    Here is how the piece starts (in the short version)

    WASHINGTON (AP) - Comedian Al Franken has decided to run for the U.S. Senate in Minnesota in 2008, challenging incumbent Republican Norm Coleman, a senior Democratic party official said Wednesday.

    No mention of Franken's leftist proclivities there.

    Now let's contrast that with how the AP worded the first segments of several of their stories on Republicans who have recently announced they are running for office. (Bold emphasis mine)

    Mike Huckabee Announcement

    (First section) WASHINGTON -- Conservative Republican Mike Huckabee, seeking to repeat the success of another former governor from Hope, Ark., said Sunday he is taking the first step in what he acknowledged is an underdog bid for the White House in 2008.

    Duncan Hunter Announcement

    (Fourth section) The 14-term conservative from California, who has made no secret of his White House aspirations, set up a presidential exploratory committee earlier this month.

    Brownback Announcement

    (First section)TOPEKA, Kan. -- Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback figures he has an edge with Republican voters that other presidential rivals don't - unquestioned conservative credentials.

    About campaign of Sam Brownback and Duncan Hunter

    (First section) WASHINGTON -- Two of the Republicans' most conservative presidential hopefuls promised anti-abortion activists on Monday that if elected, they would work to overturn the Supreme Court decision legalizing the procedure.

    Lots of mentions of "conservative" leanings in their reports of Republican announcements for candidacy. So, why not mention Franken's leftism especially since it isn't just an incidental fact with Franken himself saying he is loudly and proudly a leftist?

    Yet, AP won't even accede to the candidate's own self-labeled positioning.

    Why can't the AP force themselves to identify liberal candidates as such?

    http://newsbusters.org/node/10534


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    The MSM is pissed at conservatives. Mostly because we point out theri liberal bias


    Like this................


    The New York Times caught this bit of lefty incivility at Saturday's protest against the occupation of Iraq …

    There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq …

    ... as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back. Capitol police made the antiwar protestors walk farther away from the counterprotesters. "These are not Americans as far as I'm concerned," Mr. Sparling said.

    The Washington Post characterized Sparling's participation like this:

    At least one veteran from the Iraq war tried to bridge the divide between the groups. Cpl. Joshua Sparling, 25, from Port Huron, Mich., who lost his right leg below the knee in an 2005 explosion in Ramadi, spoke to both groups.
    Politicos from the right AND left are fightng for power and media is the method that both use to achieve these ends. They are selling a product. It's time Americans wake up an realize they are being bought and not expect to hear the truth from advertising agents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Politicos from the right AND left are fightng for power and media is the method that both use to achieve these ends. They are selling a product. It's time Americans wake up an realize they are being bought and not expect to hear the truth from advertising agents.
    Very true. And time Americans wake up and realize that ONE of the sellers is trying to slash the other's tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Politicos from the right AND left are fightng for power and media is the method that both use to achieve these ends. They are selling a product. It's time Americans wake up an realize they are being bought and not expect to hear the truth from advertising agents.
    So libs now have no problem spitting on war vets. At leats now they are openly showing their contempt instead of lying how they support the military


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    So libs now have no problem spitting on war vets. At leats now they are openly showing their contempt instead of lying how they support the military
    What does that have to do with the price of eggs ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    What does that have to do with the price of eggs ?
    How the liberal media spins how a peace loving anti war peace nik shows his love and admiration toward a wounded Iarq war vet

    Perhaps if talk radio and Fox News did not exist it would be something like this......


    Babykilling Fascist Spits on Peace Activist
    You can "support the troops", but not the war. And if in the process of "supporting the troops" you succeed in encouraging those they are fighting against, well then that's their own damn problem. So it was in that spirit that thousands of peace activists converged on the nation’s capitol last weekend in what future poets will one day describe as an "overflowing septic tank of love". In contrast, about three counter-protesters showed up to antagonize the crowd by making disparaging remarks about the beautiful and talented Jane Fonda. One of those freeper brownshirts was none other than our old friend Josh “Can’t Take a Joke” Sparling, a wounded war criminal and brainwashed propagandist for the Bush Junta.

    While the American Hero Ehren Watada will likely spend the rest of his life at Gitmo for having the courage to abandon his fellow soldiers on the field of battle, Sparling has become a jingoist poster boy for the military-industrial complex. A glutton for media attention, he's been selling his bull on every morning talk show for the past week, taking valuable air time away from Mother Cindy and the Joisey Grrlz. He obviously has no shame. Yet when a peace activist hocked a wad of soul-cleansing loogie in his general direction, Sparling actually returned fire.

    Thankfully, the Nazi was too slow on the draw. The nimble-footed protester had already vanished in a cloud of marijuana smoke and patchouli, perhaps off to graffiti the Washington Monument in the hopes of beefing up his arrest record for a future teaching job at Berkeley. The right-wing media has been fixated on the story all week, using the incident to paint peace activists in a bad light and perpetuate the myth that we all hate the babykilling troops. However, it was Sparling’s vicious attack that betrayed a fundamental lack of respect for the millions of brave men, womyn, and transgendered progressives who fight every day to end the war and bring our tots home in shame and defeat before they can mishandle any more Qurans.

    As for the valiant protester who supposedly spat at but not on Sparling (there’s a difference), he gave up a day of playing Gears of War on his Xbox 360 to take a stand against violence and aggression. Instead of whining about a little good-natured ribbing, Sparling should get down on his good knee and thank him for his noble sacrifice.

    http://blamebush.typepad.com/


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