Break the state-run-school cartel - for the sake of the kids.

[darin]

Stossell hits a home run about the benefits - and NO drawbacks - of Charter Schools.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

I miss him on Fox News... wonder what the heck happened there why he's gone...

[darin]

I miss him on Fox News... wonder what the heck happened there why he's gone...

He left Fox to go digital. He has a YT page and posts on ReasonTV's YT channel too.

[High_Plains_Drifter]

He left Fox to go digital. He has a YT page and posts on ReasonTV's YT channel too.

REALLY... I will look that up right now. I like Stossel.

[pete311]

All I know is that charter schools in my city get public money but get to choose what kids they want. That leaves the public schools to rot with the worst kids because they are required to take them.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

All I know is that charter schools in my city get public money but get to choose what kids they want. That leaves the public schools to rot with the worst kids because they are required to take them.

You mean the worse kids whose traits they encourage and promote over the long ago abandoned principles and discipline that public schools once had?
You know, all that stuff that the libs/dems changed, so that they could dumb people down enough to vote for them!
Which started in the 60's and bears its insidious bumper crops of rotten fruits today..
That public school system(controlled by liberal policies and the dems) that you now bemoaned what it has become while ignoring it was by lib/dem design...
Your blinders must be at least ten miles thick, methinks...-Tyr

[darin]

All I know is that charter schools in my city get public money but get to choose what kids they want. That leaves the public schools to rot with the worst kids because they are required to take them.

Sounds fair. Parents' problems..not the schools or the district's issue. Parents raise assholes who refuse to behave and learn - that's fine.


If public schools were up to par, the charter schools wouldn't be popular-enough to draw the average students, thus leaving the below-average to the incompetent standard public schools.

[pete311]

Sounds fair. Parents' problems..not the schools or the district's issue. Parents raise assholes who refuse to behave and learn - that's fine.


If public schools were up to par, the charter schools wouldn't be popular-enough to draw the average students, thus leaving the below-average to the incompetent standard public schools.

There will always be a spectrum from where to filter. I don't see how you an blame a school that's been cherry picked for not performing. You say it's the parents problem, but then the school gets blamed. The world's best teacher isn't going to be effective in a classroom/school literally full of trouble.

[darin]

There will always be a spectrum from where to filter. I don't see how you an blame a school that's been cherry picked for not performing. You say it's the parents problem, but then the school gets blamed. The world's best teacher isn't going to be effective in a classroom/school literally full of trouble.

Which is the parents domain. Parents fail to train to teach their kids how to learn. That's where the student typically starts.

The problem with education is the public school system as-is; they cannot effectively teach the masses. Charter schools provide better results -regardless of where the student starts. Charter schools, over all, simply perform better. The school with the asshole kids or poor-performers? abolish the unions, make it a charter school and whatever level it is now will be increased within a couple years.

[pete311]

Which is the parents domain. Parents fail to train to teach their kids how to learn. That's where the student typically starts.

The problem with education is the public school system as-is; they cannot effectively teach the masses. Charter schools provide better results -regardless of where the student starts. Charter schools, over all, simply perform better. The school with the asshole kids or poor-performers? abolish the unions, make it a charter school and whatever level it is now will be increased within a couple years.

Huh? Charter schools perform better because they can deny enrolling the poor performers. They don't have a different teaching style or structure. So simply renaming a public school into a charter school won't make any difference unless you then move the kids out of the school and cherry pick the good ones. But then where do the other ones go? There must be a public school that is required to take them and then you can't blame them for not being able to control what all the others abandoned.

[Abbey Marie]

Huh? Charter schools perform better because they can deny enrolling the poor performers. They don't have a different teaching style or structure. So simply renaming a public school into a charter school won't make any difference unless you then move the kids out of the school and cherry pick the good ones. But then where do the other ones go? There must be a public school that is required to take them and then you can't blame them for not being able to control what all the others abandoned.

Depending on age, send the incorrigibles to votech, reform school or the military. There’s no point continually trying to educate someone who refuses to learn or behave.

[STTAB]

All I know is that charter schools in my city get public money but get to choose what kids they want. That leaves the public schools to rot with the worst kids because they are required to take them.

This is true, but not the entire story nor does it explain just how awful some public schools really are.

[darin]

Huh? Charter schools perform better because they can deny enrolling the poor performers. They don't have a different teaching style or structure. So simply renaming a public school into a charter school won't make any difference unless you then move the kids out of the school and cherry pick the good ones. But then where do the other ones go? There must be a public school that is required to take them and then you can't blame them for not being able to control what all the others abandoned.

You are trying a chicken or egg argument.

They perform better 'accross the board'. Better than the public schools when they had the same students that now attend charter schools. thats the point. Libertarians and conservatives differ so much from leftists - because we prefer things that work to make society better. we want to use things that actually work.

[pete311]

You are trying a chicken or egg argument.

They perform better 'accross the board'. Better than the public schools when they had the same students that now attend charter schools. thats the point. Libertarians and conservatives differ so much from leftists - because we prefer things that work to make society better. we want to use things that actually work.

They don't have the same students, that's the point.

[STTAB]

They don't have the same students, that's the point.

They also don't have the same teachers. Maybe that's the difference.