Vladimir Putin is the third registered presidential candidate

[Drummond]

the referendum took place yesterday, the turnout was 95% , and in the Crimea voted for Putin 93.22% not enough for you ? we are not going to report to anyone, this is the second referendum for us

Crimea will never return to Ukraine

'Crimea will never return to Ukraine'. Your words.

They're also Putin's words.

Interesting, isn't it ? Either Russia's full of clairvoyants, capable of devastating accuracy in their predictions, OR, it's the case that this is known because they'll never be allowed to return.

Let's say, just for the hell of it, that the 'return to Russia Referendum' was, ahem, fair and aboveboard. That it represented the citizens' wishes accurately. Who are you to say (or Putin to say) that future generations won't feel differently ?

Are socio-political conditions static ? Never changing ? Do political outlooks never, ever, change ?

Apparently, Putin would say that they never do. Which is fantasy .. of course.

No. You, and Putin, betray in your 'certainty' the real truth. Crimea is under the jackboot of Russia's iron control, and WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO RETURN.

And 'democratic representation', the peoples' real wishes, be damned !

[Drummond]

we're just learning from America.
when America bombed Yugoslavia, she didn't ask anyone. when she invaded Iraq, she didn't ask anyone. we, too, decided no one not ask
ок?

we, too, decided no one not ask ок?

In the particular sense that you betray the truth of the matter ... yes, it's OK.

The Referendum was illegal. It was also a sham.

Perhaps, to you, that's all 'OK', too.

So, Crimea was annexed.

Who's next ?

[Papokarlo]

we, too, decided no one not ask ок?

In the particular sense that you betray the truth of the matter ... yes, it's OK.

The Referendum was illegal. It was also a sham.

Perhaps, to you, that's all 'OK', too.

So, Crimea was annexed.

Who's next ?

there was a vote yesterday, same as the referendum, but you don't like it either. We will not allow such a mistake and will not give Crimea to anyone else. alas, you have to live with it. not what sanctions will not force us to return the Crimea to Ukraine
92% for Putin in the Crimea
what else do you need? again something not so?))

[Drummond]

there was a vote yesterday, same as the referendum, but you don't like it either. We will not allow such a mistake and will not give Crimea to anyone else. alas, you have to live with it. not what sanctions will not force us to return the Crimea to Ukraine
92% for Putin in the Crimea
what else do you need? again something not so?))

We agree. It WAS the same as the Referendum.

Try giving Crimea, and GENUINELY, to the people who live there !!

What everyone but Putin and his supporters need, are genuine, fair, unrigged, elections. How about that ??

As for 'living with' yesterday's result ... well, we will try.

Perhaps not everyone will manage to, though. This just might depend upon who's going to be within toxicity-range of your next round of foreign assasinations !!!

[Papokarlo]

We agree. It WAS the same as the Referendum.

Try giving Crimea, and GENUINELY, to the people who live there !!

What everyone but Putin and his supporters need, are genuine, fair, unrigged, elections. How about that ??

As for 'living with' yesterday's result ... well, we will try.

Perhaps not everyone will manage to, though. This just might depend upon who's going to be within toxicity-range of your next round of foreign assasinations !!!

if it is necessary to Crimeans will be at war for Russia, they already did it against Hitler

[Gunny]

if it is necessary to Crimeans will be at war for Russia, they already did it against Hitler

Crimea was part of the USSR, not a sovereign nation when they opposed Hitler in 1941. They really had no choice. Try again.

[Papokarlo]

if Russia flies away to live on Mars, you will still say what a bad Putin, but we will not hear you. in Russia there is a proverb - The dog barks, the caravan goes on(which means that no matter what they say about you, do your job)

[Gunny]

if Russia flies away to live on Mars, you will still say what a bad Putin, but we will not hear you. in Russia there is a proverb - Dog bars, the caravan moves on(which means that no matter what they say about you, do your job)

I don't know who you are addressing, but I haven't said much about Putin at all. I DO know I have already pointed that out to you though. Message not getting through?

Your "proverb" is nonsensical. Let's be sure you get this clear. I am addressing YOU. Not Putin, Not Russia. Not all Russians. YOU.
YOU are the clown here. I assure you, "Mr Dog", you have no "job" on Debate Policy. No one here is buying what you're selling. Even that Russian propaganda machine Balu has kept his distance from you. That must mean you REALLY aren't good at it.

Try getting along. It works.

[Drummond]

if it is necessary to Crimeans will be at war for Russia, they already did it against Hitler

Ah. They're annexed to Russia, to go to war for Russia ?

Do the Crimeans know this ?? I think they might want to !!

Who gets sent to the front lines first, I wonder ?

... and ... what jolly fun and games IS Putin planning, anyway ??

[Drummond]

if Russia flies away to live on Mars, you will still say what a bad Putin, but we will not hear you. in Russia there is a proverb - The dog barks, the caravan goes on(which means that no matter what they say about you, do your job)

Well, I, for one, would. Yes.

Would being on Mars help reform Putin ? It's a nice thought.

Would I care if you didn't hear ? Not in the slightest.

[Drummond]

Crimea was part of the USSR, not a sovereign nation when they opposed Hitler in 1941. They really had no choice. Try again.

Seems that Crimeans are already used to being given no real choice about anything, then.

Old habits die hard .....

[Papokarlo]

Ah. They're annexed to Russia, to go to war for Russia ?

Do the Crimeans know this ?? I think they might want to !!

Who gets sent to the front lines first, I wonder ?

... and ... what jolly fun and games IS Putin planning, anyway ??

I say that-in case of something the Crimeans will follow Russia, if necessary to fight. this suggests that they are for us

[Gunny]

I say that-in case of something the Crimeans will follow Russia, if necessary to fight. this suggests that they are for us

What are going to fight? Planning another land grab?

[aboutime]

if Russia flies away to live on Mars, you will still say what a bad Putin, but we will not hear you. in Russia there is a proverb - The dog barks, the caravan goes on(which means that no matter what they say about you, do your job)

Unlike you, and your fellow commie, comrads. The whole World knows...PUTIN IS A BAD DUDE! Even HE brags about it.

[Gunny]

You have to admit .... the one of Obama is true ...