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    I believe most people are mostly good.

    When there is a power structure it attracts the ones who would like to use that power to their own means.


    I believe religion should avoid the threat and avoid power structures.

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    Tune-in tonight! It's the Muslim episode!
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer
    Science wants to explain things and understand why they happen. Creationists want to use science to justify their own causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    I believe most people are mostly good.

    When there is a power structure it attracts the ones who would like to use that power to their own means.


    I believe religion should avoid the threat and avoid power structures.
    That's like saying a woman in a binkini is asking to be raped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Tune-in tonight! It's the Muslim episode!



    Do you work for the Clinton News Network or something?
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    "Maybe I missed that part of the Constitution"--Joe Steel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Tune-in tonight! It's the Muslim episode!
    Shouldn't take long to see which way they are going with it. My test will be if they can remain factual with out resorting to condemning nor trying to rationlize Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    That's like saying a woman in a binkini is asking to be raped.

    No it is not.

    Its like saying dont give away your brain and soul to the guy down the street or the guy with the kool aid pitcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    I believe most people are mostly good.

    When there is a power structure it attracts the ones who would like to use that power to their own means.


    I believe religion should avoid the threat and avoid power structures.
    But they arent mostly good. All people are corrupt as a result of the Fall. We are imperfect. Given to natural passions without restrain men would oppress and kill each other.

    Power doesnt corrupt people. Corrupt people corrupt power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    No it is not.

    Its like saying dont give away your brain and soul to the guy down the street or the guy with the kool aid pitcher.
    the "guy " down the street is a person. NOT an institution.

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    When you stand him in front of your church and call him the preacher and he tells you how to think about what the bible says you have given him the power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    But they arent mostly good. All people are corrupt as a result of the Fall. We are imperfect. Given to natural passions without restrain men would oppress and kill each other.

    Power doesnt corrupt people. Corrupt people corrupt power.

    I believe most people are mostly good.

    I did not say I thought anyone was perfect.

    The fall part is your religion and I dont believe in it ,I dont mind that you do but you really cant expect me to.

    I believe we are capable of the restraint and I believe man can do it.

    Maybe this is why religion should stay out of government and government should stay out of religion.

    I think our founders had that right.

    sorry but I have to go, have a pleasant evening all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    Do you work for the Clinton News Network or something?
    HAHAHAHAHA! Yes I do. Tune in.
    Last edited by Hagbard Celine; 08-22-2007 at 05:55 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer
    Science wants to explain things and understand why they happen. Creationists want to use science to justify their own causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    I believe most people are mostly good.

    I did not say I thought anyone was perfect.

    The fall part is your religion and I dont believe in it ,I dont mind that you do but you really cant expect me to.

    I believe we are capable of the restraint and I believe man can do it.

    Maybe this is why religion should stay out of government and government should stay out of religion.

    I think our founders had that right.

    sorry but I have to go, have a pleasant evening all!
    Institutions don't run without people.

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    I believe people are inherently evil. Strip away the "civilization" and we all become animals fighting for survival.

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    People created civilization.

    People for the most part wnat to be good to each ohter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthmatters View Post
    People created civilization.

    People for the most part wnat to be good to each ohter.
    Oh ya--bin laden is just one big teddy bear.

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