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    Default If True. This Is Huge

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-k...m_npd_nn_tw_ma

    Would be a deal changer. Time will tell as Trump himself tweeted this morning.


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    Default North Korea willing to abandon nukes

    1. According to https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world...cid=spartandhp

    (Begin excerpts)
    Kim Jong Un is willing to give up nuclear weapons if the security of his regime is guaranteed, says South Korea, after he reportedly said it was the last wish of his father.

    An envoy from Seoul made the announcement after meeting the North Korean leader, who is also said to be open to "frank" talks with the US...

    "The North made clear its willingness for the denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula, and made clear that there is no reason to own nuclear (programmes) if military threats towards the North are cleared and the security of its regime is guaranteed," said the South's national security adviser, Chung Eui-yong...

    "Chairman Kim said that even denuclearisation could be among the agenda items for talks between North Korea and the US," a South Korean official told the country's Yonhap news agency.

    Kim Jong Un "made clear that achieving denuclearisation is his father's dying wish and that it has not been changed at all", according to the official who was speaking anonymously... (End excerpts)

    2. According to http://www.news.com.au/technology/wh...860260afcee844

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    Former leader Kim Jong-il revised the constitution to state that he had “transferred the country into an undefeated country with strong political ideology, a nuclear power state, and invincible military power”. (End excerpts)

    Hence it is an outright lie for Tubby Kim to claim that "achieving denuclearisation is his father's dying wish". How can Uncle Sam trust Kim's sincerity in denuclearisation?

    3. Summary

    First of all, North Korea's security is easily guaranteed. Just hold an international conference and let all the five nuclear powers and all other countries sign on paper to guarantee its security.

    Does a country need nuclear weapons for its long-term survival? Just look at Vietnam and Taiwan. Do they need nuclear weapons to guarantee their survival against China? Hence it is just a lame excuse for North Korea to claim that it needs nuclear weapons for its long-term survival. Its security has been guaranteed by Russia and China in particular since the 1950 Korean War, otherwise American troops could have chased the rogue regime out of the Korean Peninsula long ago.

    Secondly, don't rejoice over the "huge news and major breakthrough" that North Korea is willing to give up its nuclear programme. North Korea is a hard nut to crack as the rogue state is very cunning and creative in the way that it goes about sanctions evasion. Its latest move is the most cunning and creative of all as it helps the rogue regime not only to evade but lift sanctions.

    For the first time since advancing all the way westward from Europe across America to Asia, the descendants of early European settlers encounter a "Red Indian tribe" that is difficult to deal with. If the American natives were as crafty and creative as the North Koreans, the history of America and the world would be entirely different.

    The main problem for America and the international community is the fact that it is absolutely impossible to denuclearise a free nuclear-armed state for the following reasons:

    (a) According to Arthur Waldron, a professor of international relations with the University of Pennsylvania at http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplo...h-korea-policy

    “There’s no such thing as a surgical strike that will take out all of North Korea’s missiles. North Korea is 48,000 square miles – the size of England or Pennsylvania – and everything is underground,” he said, adding that it was also impossible to verify denuclearisation.

    (b) The first reason explains North Korea's sudden flurry of activities to accelerate its nuclear programme last year. Impossible to verify denuclearisation is equivalent to impossible to denuclearise a free nuclear-armed state. North Korea can easily hide a few nuclear weapons somewhere in the mountains or underground, and bring them out to turn the South into "a sea of fire" when necessary.

    Unlike imperial Japan and Nazi Germany, North Korea is not a defeated country in a war. The US cannot station a governing body or troops to search every nook and cranny of the country for any hidden nuclear weapon.

    (c) After the surrender of Nazi Germany and Japan at the end of World War 2, the US had the authority to disband all the military organisations in the two countries. Uncle Sam could even recruit the scientists of the two countries and brought them to America to help in the development of US rockets and other weapons. North Korea certainly won't let the US to disband all its military organisations. It will continue training and upgrading the skills of its nuclear scientists whose expertise can be fully utilised when the time is ripe for it to breach any agreement or obligation with the US.

    (d) After the lifting of the sanctions, North Korea will have free access to capital and technology to accelerate its nuclear programme.

    (e) Japan was forced to enact a pacifist constitution after surrendering to the US. Postwar Japan formally renounced the sovereign right of belligerency and aimed at an international peace based on justice and order. To accomplish the pacifist aims, Japan vowed not to maintain armed forces with war potential. Can the US force North Korea to enact a pacifist constitution in exchange for the lifting of sanctions?

    P.S. The North Korean nuclear saga shows that a large state often resorts to brute force but a small weak state needs no super weapons but brains for survival. Since North Korea can survive with smart brains, why does it need nuclear weapons? History will tell in the future.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/3448765/n...clear-weapons/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-k...-target-south/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articl...e_Constitution

    https://www.loc.gov/law/help/japan-c...n/article9.php
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    If it happens credit goes to South Korea

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    If it happens credit goes to South Korea
    Cute, but even I will credit Trump for his Reagan like stance with NK.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    If it happens credit goes to South Korea
    Not. Credit goes to Un. He played a masterful hand. IF it works. As Kath said, also to Trump. He comes off a winner in it. South Korea is the conduit. They get credit for that. IF it works, the antagonists get the credit. Isn't that who is going to get the blame if doesn't?
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    Default Petey...YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT....why not use it?

    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    If it happens credit goes to South Korea

    Yeah petey. Of course you would say that. Now tell us WHY it never happened during your LOVER BOY'S two terms that started in 2008?
    We all know. If Trump personally came up with the cure for CANCER (also known as liberalism) you and the other hate-filled selfish liberal junkies would accuse him of Lying.
    I love to make Liberals Cry, and Whine.
    So, this is for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    If it happens credit goes to South Korea
    And what do you know?

    Geesh....just blowing your pie-hole. Trump has put North Korea in a corner.
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    Garbage....Trump (and In the know Americans) Knows its a Game NK has been playing a LONG ...LONG...Time....To keep the snowFlakes and Trump haters Happy...he will bite and make it Public...

    ...Trump knows it wont last long....Intelligent..."Americans" Know it wont last long....Soon or later Most know what must be done...For now... it "Looks" good...

    In the END...(when its time for real action)...we can say we played out all the options....so the snowFlakes and Trump haters wont bitch and moan...even though they still will...





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    Hi, Elessar! Thanks for liking my post. This shows that you have not lost your mind. If you have really lost your mind, you have found it by yourself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    If it happens credit goes to South Korea
    If you study the history of conflicts between ancient Korean kingdoms, you won't be optimistic about any peace prospect on the Korean Peninsula. What South Korea has achieved is only postponing the inevitable invasion by the North. North Korea is eying the South like a hungry wolf salivating at the sight of a lamb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    If it happens credit goes to South Korea
    Do you enjoy sounding like a fool?

    Why didn't this happen during the kenyan? Bush? Clinton?

    I can answer that... because none of them had the balls to threaten rocket man with blowing his pie face off the map, that's why.

    Credit: President Trump... period... end of story.

    With that said, I'm sure the inbred idiot still thinks he's going to play president Trump, and that won't work either, and I can hear it now. If a deal isn't reached, it's Trump's fault... right? SK gets credit for the talks, but if the talks net nothing, then it's Trump's fault. He'll never win or do anything right in you fascist leftist's eyes will he? No. We know that.

    Even if president Trump is able to reach a deal and NK agrees to disarm it's nukes, you leftists will find something wrong with the deal. You'll accuse him of fucking it up no matter what.
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    Someone will be given the Nobel Peace Prize by the Europeans for this -----------


    Kim, of course: obviously they won't give it to Trump.

    They only give the Peace Prize to enemies of America. Obama, for instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mundame View Post
    Someone will be given the Nobel Peace Prize by the Europeans for this -----------


    Kim, of course: obviously they won't give it to Trump.

    They only give the Peace Prize to enemies of America. Obama, for instance.
    They will probably give it to Obama again. The Nobel prize is a joke. And always has been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    They will probably give it to Obama again. The Nobel prize is a joke. And always has been.
    I hear obama is in talks with netflix for a show... it's going to be called, "I Was Born a Kenyan Muslim."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    They will probably give it to Obama again. The Nobel prize is a joke. And always has been.
    Obama got it for doing nothing but getting elected. Worthless!
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