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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Well, here's my take on things.

    Congress handed him a bill to sign that was horrible, of course none of us like it. It smacks of the idiot Pelosi a few years back telling everyone that we had to pass it to find out what's in it, remember that shitshow? Lunacy of the highest order from our Congress.

    In the end, Trump would have been squarely blamed for the looming shutdown by killing it. We've got a pretty damned important election coming up later this year, and right now as leader of the GOP, that would definitely have been a bad factor in retaining control. Remember, the moonbats have somehow pulled off a couple of wins lately that should not have happened due to energized liberals and complacent conservatives.

    I'm not happy with the bill. I think Trump should have vetoed it and sent it back, but I understand why he signed it.

    I see a lot of moaning and wringing of hands all over the interwebs lately, and people who supposedly have been enjoying the last 14 months of winning are suddenly willing to throw in the towel and cry in their Cheerios over this one setback. Defeatism abounds.

    I see the rising gloat of Nevertrumpers and Cruzbots perversely enjoying this setback. Bill Kristol and Jonah Goldberg have been obscenely aroused for the last few days.

    Losing one battle does not mean the war is lost. It took decades to construct that swamp and it's going to take a bit more than 14 months to drain that mofo.

    It reminds me of back in 2016 when Hillary was going to win (and there was absolutely no doubt, right?) and it was going to be all our fault for supporting the GOP Nominee. According to quite a few conservatives, it was going to be better to allow Hillary to win. Somehow. I never did understand the logic behind that, but whatever. I'll do me and you'll do you.

    Gloom and Doom were the watchwords of the entire campaign and I was absolutely a rube, naive, a populist (??), an idiot... I was labelled lots of things for seeing the big picture. I stuck to my guns, and so did a shitload of other Americans who ignored the BS from all sides and we ended up with the best possible candidate out of the lot of them.

    I think we all can agree that he's far exceeded expectations and he's still ramping up.

    So with this one setback delivered by an incompetent Congress and Trump by signing it, I'll not throw in the towel and scream to the sky in impotent rage. I have faith he'll find a few nuggets in this monstrosity and continue to deliver.

    I'm not willing to surrender because of one setback. That's what liberals do - wave the white flag at the first sign of trouble.

    That doesn't mean we can't be frustrated & angry, but giving up and handing things over to Chuck & Nancy isn't what I'm going to do.



    And before anyone here gets butthurt and starts drawing their daggers, I'm not talking about anyone here. I'm speaking in general to what I'm seeing all over the internet right now.
    Well said sir...Thank you for the post.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    Well, here's my take on things.

    Congress handed him a bill to sign that was horrible, of course none of us like it. It smacks of the idiot Pelosi a few years back telling everyone that we had to pass it to find out what's in it, remember that shitshow? Lunacy of the highest order from our Congress.

    In the end, Trump would have been squarely blamed for the looming shutdown by killing it. We've got a pretty damned important election coming up later this year, and right now as leader of the GOP, that would definitely have been a bad factor in retaining control. Remember, the moonbats have somehow pulled off a couple of wins lately that should not have happened due to energized liberals and complacent conservatives.

    I'm not happy with the bill. I think Trump should have vetoed it and sent it back, but I understand why he signed it.

    I see a lot of moaning and wringing of hands all over the interwebs lately, and people who supposedly have been enjoying the last 14 months of winning are suddenly willing to throw in the towel and cry in their Cheerios over this one setback. Defeatism abounds.

    I see the rising gloat of Nevertrumpers and Cruzbots perversely enjoying this setback. Bill Kristol and Jonah Goldberg have been obscenely aroused for the last few days.

    Losing one battle does not mean the war is lost. It took decades to construct that swamp and it's going to take a bit more than 14 months to drain that mofo.

    It reminds me of back in 2016 when Hillary was going to win (and there was absolutely no doubt, right?) and it was going to be all our fault for supporting the GOP Nominee. According to quite a few conservatives, it was going to be better to allow Hillary to win. Somehow. I never did understand the logic behind that, but whatever. I'll do me and you'll do you.

    Gloom and Doom were the watchwords of the entire campaign and I was absolutely a rube, naive, a populist (??), an idiot... I was labelled lots of things for seeing the big picture. I stuck to my guns, and so did a shitload of other Americans who ignored the BS from all sides and we ended up with the best possible candidate out of the lot of them.

    I think we all can agree that he's far exceeded expectations and he's still ramping up.

    So with this one setback delivered by an incompetent Congress and Trump by signing it, I'll not throw in the towel and scream to the sky in impotent rage. I have faith he'll find a few nuggets in this monstrosity and continue to deliver.

    I'm not willing to surrender because of one setback. That's what liberals do - wave the white flag at the first sign of trouble.

    That doesn't mean we can't be frustrated & angry, but giving up and handing things over to Chuck & Nancy isn't what I'm going to do.



    And before anyone here gets butthurt and starts drawing their daggers, I'm not talking about anyone here. I'm speaking in general to what I'm seeing all over the internet right now.
    Spot on my friend, spot on!!

    I've seen far too many "enjoying" something they can pinpoint as a loss towards Trump, and fault to blame him. But not much of acknowledging any good, of which there has been more than enough.

    I'm cool with Trump, and hope in the future he spends more time in correcting congress about how they negotiate, when & how they send him shit with a govt, shutdown as the alternative.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    As pointed out, some decent things in the bill, defense spending being the best of all IMO. Reading that the Palestinians will be screwed is always music to my ears, and this for the best reason of all.

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    Pollak: Conservative Hysteria over Omnibus Is Wrong and Self-Defeating

    Conservatives are understandably frustrated by the $1.3 trillion omnibus spending bill that President Donald Trump signed into law, under protest, on Friday.

    The massive size of the bill makes a mockery of Republican promises since 2009 to restrain spending and return to balanced budget once they returned to power.

    The large number of giveaways to Democratic Party projects and special interests is a sign that the Swamp is still alive and festering in the Trump era.

    The fact that the 2,232-page bill was jammed down legislators’ throats with literally no time to read it shows how little has changed in Washington even after the Tea Party.

    And the lack of real funding for the border wall — Trump’s core campaign promise in 2016 — suggests that Trump is “getting rolled” by both parties.

    But the omnibus is not a disaster. In fact, Republicans scored many important wins.

    One is the fact that the bill provides massive new spending for defense — “the largest year-to-year increase in base funding for the Department of Defense in 15 years,” according to the bill’s authors.

    That funding was badly needed — and will not easily be reversed.

    Military.com summarizes the highlights:

    The Navy gets 14 new ships, including a carrier; the Air Force adds 56 F-35s; the Army gets 17 Apache and 11 Lakota helicopters; the Marine Corpsreceives 24 vertical landing F-35Bs; and the Coast Guard gets a long-needed icebreaker.

    All the troops get funding for a 2.4 percent pay raise that took effect at the beginning of the year, with the possibility for more next year.

    The Air Force also gets $103 million for the wing replacement program on the A-10 Thunderbolt as a start in what Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson said earlier this week is a plan to keep the “Warthogs” flying at least to 2030.
    Most conservatives — from skeptical libertarians to hawkish neoconservatives — agree that national security is the first priority of government. The new defense spending will help the U.S. military catch up to the pace of Chinese expansion, and keep other threats in check.

    Yes, there will need to be budget cuts in the future. But the new commitment to defense makes it more likely that cuts will have to come from other discretionary spending, and long-overdue entitlement reforms.

    In addition, the omnibus spending bill included many riders that conservatives should applaud. Some had little chance of passing any other way.

    Foremost among these is the Taylor Force Act, which will cut off most U.S. foreign aid to the Palestinian Authority unless it stops paying stipends to terrorists and their families — which it will not do.

    The importance of that law cannot be overstated. It will radically shift relations between Israelis and Palestinians in Israel’s favor. It will also send a clear signal to the world that the U.S. will hold other governments responsible for supporting terrorism.

    Other riders included the Fix NICS Act, a Trump administration- and National Rifle Association-backed bill that will improve the nation’s background check system for gun purchases. The bill ought to take some of the wind out of the sails of the anti-gun movement.

    Another addition was a fix to the “grain glitch,” a provision in last year’s tax cut that accidentally discouraged farms from selling their produce to private buyers and favored sales to cooperatives instead.

    Conservatives can also take heart from what was not included in the omnibus. The Trump administration held out against Democrat demands for full amnesty for 1.8 million “Dreamers” — i.e. illegal aliens brought into the country as minors.

    Republicans also prevented the bill from giving massive subsidies to insurance companies on the Obamacare exchanges after President Trump ended the Obama administration’s payments, which had been ruled unconstitutional by a federal court last year.

    Rest - http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...elf-defeating/
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