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    Default Utah Passes "Open Range" Parenting Law

    Gosh! This sound just like it was when I was growing up in West Virginia!

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...-law/23396985/

    We did not have all the paranoia that exists nowadays.
    I have lost my mind. If found, please give it a snack and return it?

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    Utah hit a home run. It's almost sad they had to, though.
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Good Lord... that's all us kids EVER did was play ALONE, OUTSIDE, and sometimes we wandered off pretty far.

    No wonder all the kids nowadays are such pampered little fatass sissy cry babies, they've had mommy and daddy holding their hand every waking minute of their lives escorting them.

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    There were 3 of us that lived close by each other.

    Depending on the season, we all first did our chores, then met up to play basketball, whiffle ball,
    or 'rough touch' football.

    Each house had a large bell to'recall' you home. Neat thing was each bell had a different tone.

    In the fall, I had to chop up kindling to start the coal furnace through the winter, rake and bag
    leaves - we were bordered by a place with huge elm trees.
    Winter, fire and stoke the furnace, clear snow and ice.
    Spring, clean up the yard.
    Summer, cut grass and trim.

    Parents did not hover over us like vultures.

    I noticed in Long Beach CA, most of the kids had no responsibilities at all.

    Lawn need mowed and trimmed? Hire a Latino gardener, most were illegals.
    House or fence need painting? Go to Home Depot or Lowes and hire dayworkers,
    most illegal latinos.

    Kid would be released from chores to go hang out on the beach, arcades, or cruise
    around the malls.
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    We boys in my family were free range on the farm, pretty much after reaching age 6/7. Rules were set about how far away we could venture but if accompanied by an older brother the range away from home was extended greatly. I was taught to shoot guns starting at age 6... by age 9 I could shoot any gun in the house when given permission by dad, by age 10 I could pick up any gun, go hunting for food and only had to tell dad where I was going.
    These days that would all be labeled as child abuse, and deemed illegal.
    Yet in the South in the early 60's in was pretty much the norm-(just that my family made the ages allowed to do such much lower than most).
    The girls were given no such leeway, since they were to be far more protected,-for the usual and obvious reasons!
    My dad's rule was tell him where we were going, what we planned to do and when we would be back home- knowledge he needed in case there was an accident.
    However , if he set a time to be back in our yard, we had damn sure better be back at the time or the consequences were not one that a person wanted. -Tyr
    18 U.S. Code § 2381-Treason Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    We boys in my family were free range on the farm, pretty much after reaching age 6/7. Rules were set about how far away we could venture but if accompanied by an older brother the range away from home was extended greatly. I was taught to shoot guns starting at age 6... by age 9 I could shoot any gun in the house when given permission by dad, by age 10 I could pick up any gun, go hunting for food and only had to tell dad where I was going.
    These days that would all be labeled as child abuse, and deemed illegal.
    Yet in the South in the early 60's in was pretty much the norm-(just that my family made the ages allowed to do such much lower than most).
    The girls were given no such leeway, since they were to be far more protected,-for the usual and obvious reasons!
    My dad's rule was tell him where we were going, what we planned to do and when we would be back home- knowledge he needed in case there was an accident.
    However , if he set a time to be back in our yard, we had damn sure better be back at the time or the consequences were not one that a person wanted. -Tyr
    Sounds about like my childhood. I grew up on a farm too, but all my family, both sides, lived in a rural/country setting in the same area. My grandfather on my Dad's side owned 265 acres of land that went all the way to the Wisconsin River, and my grandfather on my Mom's side owned 148 acres. Both grandparents land was all forest. Our farm in Cottage Grove, WI was 425 acres of mostly flat, tillable land, but we did have a cool little stream going through it. Us kids, including cousins, knew every square inch of all our families land, and when we'd visit the grandparents and wander off into the woods, the parents would honk the car horns to let us know when it was time to come back to the cabin. We usually all had our guns with us too, mostly a little .22 rifle or a 20 gauge shot gun. Such great times, such wonderful memories, such a great childhood. I used to pity the kids that had to grow up in a city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    Sounds about like my childhood. I grew up on a farm too, but all my family, both sides, lived in a rural/country setting in the same area. My grandfather on my Dad's side owned 265 acres of land that went all the way to the Wisconsin River, and my grandfather on my Mom's side owned 148 acres. Both grandparents land was all forest. Our farm in Cottage Grove, WI was 425 acres of mostly flat, tillable land, but we did have a cool little stream going through it. Us kids, including cousins, knew every square inch of all our families land, and when we'd visit the grandparents and wander off into the woods, the parents would honk the car horns to let us know when it was time to come back to the cabin. We usually all had our guns with us too, mostly a little .22 rifle or a 20 gauge shot gun. Such great times, such wonderful memories, such a great childhood. I used to pity the kids that had to grow up in a city.
    Such freedom and ADVENTURE FOR KIDS BACK IN THOSE DAYS MY FRIEND.
    Sad that because of the liberal destroyed culture we live in today, a much more guarded childhood is necessary.
    I'd not let my son do most of what I was allowed.
    Am I wrong to be so very guarded now?
    I think not, and that s because the world is a much, much more vile, wicked and dangerous place for kids these days.
    These younger generations are not only spoiled but so many of them (boys and girls) are totally without any shred of civility, decency, morals and discipline which makes this world far , far more dangerous for kids-- especially in the cities.-Tyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Such freedom and ADVENTURE FOR KIDS BACK IN THOSE DAYS MY FRIEND.
    Sad that because of the liberal destroyed culture we live in today, a much more guarded childhood is necessary.
    I'd not let my son do most of what I was allowed.
    Am I wrong to be so very guarded now?
    I think not, and that s because the world is a much, much more vile, wicked and dangerous place for kids these days.
    These younger generations are not only spoiled but so many of them (boys and girls) are totally without any shred of civility, decency, morals and discipline which makes this world far , far more dangerous for kids-- especially in the cities.-Tyr
    I agree. I used to carry a gun when I'd go out in the woods for sporting reasons, but now I carry for protection. In just minutes I can be on over 250,000 acres of DNR land along the Wisconsin River, speaking of which my relatives used to own pieces of, but I like to go back there and drive all the little old sandy roads I used to decades ago with long since gone grandparents, because I enjoy just being out in the woods, and along a nice big river is just icing on the cake. I enjoy all the sights and sounds and smells of nature, and it's fun to hotrod the big lifted 4x4 truck a bit too, but, when I get back in the woods and I'm out of the truck walking around, I throw on my little friend the .45LC Birdshead in the bandoleer cross draw holster...

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    Notable to me is such a law is even needed. We've got so much bullsh*t legislation out there that now we're having to caveat it with further legislation. You can't just dump the original BS either which would make the most sense because the bonehead sue-happy's would just start all over again.

    Now they have a new law to try and sue around.
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