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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    I know you don't like me wrecking your thread ... You know Haiku is a pro wrestler? The other wrestlers are scared to death of him.
    A wrestler eh? Well when I first started, WRITING IN THAT POETRY FORM IT WAS LIKE A WRESTLING MATCH TO ME.
    Was very hard to turn off my creativity and limit the scope of my idea/thought and message.
    Also torture for me to write and have it not rhyme....-Tyr


    hai·ku
    ˈhīˌko͞o/
    noun
    noun: haiku; plural noun: haikus; plural noun: haiku

    a Japanese poem of seventeen syllables, in three lines of five, seven, and five, traditionally evoking images of the natural world.
    an English imitation of this.

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    Haiku (or hokku)

    A Japanese verse form most often composed, in English versions, of three unrhymed lines of five, seven, and five syllables. A haiku often features an image, or a pair of images, meant to depict the essence of a specific moment in time.

    Not popularized in Western literature until the early 1900s, the form originates from the Japanese hokku, or the opening section of a longer renga sequence. In this context, the hokku served to begin a longer poem by establishing a season, often with a pair of seasonal images. Unlike the rest of the renga sequence, which was composed collaboratively, the hokku was often created by a single poet working alone, and was subsequently used as an exercise for students. Over time, the hokku began to be appreciated for its own worth and became distinct as a poetic form, formally mastered by poets such as Basho and Yosa Buson.

    In 1905, Paul-Louis Couchoud became one of the first European translators of the form, converting many short Japanese verses into his native French. This began the popularization of haiku in Europe, where the form was translated by French and Spanish poets, such as José Juan Tablada. Throughout the two World Wars and the rise of Modernism, haikus were gradually adapted and celebrated by Imagist poets, such as Ezra Pound, H.D., and T.E. Hulme. In this context, the haiku was appreciated for its linguistic and sensory economy. Most notably Pound’s “In a Station of the Metro,” though not intended as a haiku, adapts the sparse, visual style of the Japanese form.

    Despite its formal history, the haiku’s composition has expanded somewhat over time. This is due in part to the differences between the Japanese language and Western languages. In its original Japanese form, the haiku is often divided into 17 mora (a Japanese unit of syllable weight) and arranged in a single vertical line. However, in English there is no exact equivalent to the mora unit. As a result, in English and other languages, haikus are most frequently adapted into three lines of verse, usually unrhymed, composed of five, seven, and five syllables, adding up to seventeen syllables total. However, many American poets, such as Jack Kerouac, began to gradually depart from this traditional syllable and line count, in favor of depicting images as succinctly as possible.

    Despite its many adaptions into multiple languages and styles, the haiku remains a powerful form due to its economic use of language to evoke a specific mood or instance. Most often occurring in the present tense, a haiku frequently depicts a moment by using pair of distinct images working in tandem, as in these lines by Kobayashi Issa, translated by Jane Hirshfield:

    On a branch
    floating downriver
    a cricket, singing.


    (Notice how, in translating from Japanese to English, Hirshfield compresses the number of syllables.)

    The haiku continues to be a popular form today, and its different qualities have been emphasized and expanded by a wide variety of writers. Poets such as Etheridge Knight, emphasize the formal and sonic quality of the verse, as seen in his piece “Haiku,” whereas poets such as Scott Helmes have chosen to emphasize the haiku’s visual arrangement, as seen in his piece, “haiku #62.”

    For further examples, see also “Three Haiku, Two Tanka” by Philip Appleman and Robert Hass’s “After the Gentle Poet Kobayashi Issa.” In addition, see the Imagist poets of the early 20th century, most notably Ezra Pound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    A wrestler eh? Well when I first started, WRITING IN THAT POETRY FORM IT WAS LIKE A WRESTLING MATCH TO ME.
    Was very hard to turn off my creativity and limit the scope of my idea/thought and message.
    Also torture for me to write and have it not rhyme....-Tyr



    hai·ku
    ˈhīˌko͞o/
    noun
    noun: haiku; plural noun: haikus; plural noun: haiku

    a Japanese poem of seventeen syllables, in three lines of five, seven, and five, traditionally evoking images of the natural world.
    an English imitation of this.

    *************************************



    Haiku (or hokku)

    A Japanese verse form most often composed, in English versions, of three unrhymed lines of five, seven, and five syllables. A haiku often features an image, or a pair of images, meant to depict the essence of a specific moment in time.

    Not popularized in Western literature until the early 1900s, the form originates from the Japanese hokku, or the opening section of a longer renga sequence. In this context, the hokku served to begin a longer poem by establishing a season, often with a pair of seasonal images. Unlike the rest of the renga sequence, which was composed collaboratively, the hokku was often created by a single poet working alone, and was subsequently used as an exercise for students. Over time, the hokku began to be appreciated for its own worth and became distinct as a poetic form, formally mastered by poets such as Basho and Yosa Buson.

    In 1905, Paul-Louis Couchoud became one of the first European translators of the form, converting many short Japanese verses into his native French. This began the popularization of haiku in Europe, where the form was translated by French and Spanish poets, such as José Juan Tablada. Throughout the two World Wars and the rise of Modernism, haikus were gradually adapted and celebrated by Imagist poets, such as Ezra Pound, H.D., and T.E. Hulme. In this context, the haiku was appreciated for its linguistic and sensory economy. Most notably Pound’s “In a Station of the Metro,” though not intended as a haiku, adapts the sparse, visual style of the Japanese form.

    Despite its formal history, the haiku’s composition has expanded somewhat over time. This is due in part to the differences between the Japanese language and Western languages. In its original Japanese form, the haiku is often divided into 17 mora (a Japanese unit of syllable weight) and arranged in a single vertical line. However, in English there is no exact equivalent to the mora unit. As a result, in English and other languages, haikus are most frequently adapted into three lines of verse, usually unrhymed, composed of five, seven, and five syllables, adding up to seventeen syllables total. However, many American poets, such as Jack Kerouac, began to gradually depart from this traditional syllable and line count, in favor of depicting images as succinctly as possible.

    Despite its many adaptions into multiple languages and styles, the haiku remains a powerful form due to its economic use of language to evoke a specific mood or instance. Most often occurring in the present tense, a haiku frequently depicts a moment by using pair of distinct images working in tandem, as in these lines by Kobayashi Issa, translated by Jane Hirshfield:

    On a branch
    floating downriver
    a cricket, singing.


    (Notice how, in translating from Japanese to English, Hirshfield compresses the number of syllables.)

    The haiku continues to be a popular form today, and its different qualities have been emphasized and expanded by a wide variety of writers. Poets such as Etheridge Knight, emphasize the formal and sonic quality of the verse, as seen in his piece “Haiku,” whereas poets such as Scott Helmes have chosen to emphasize the haiku’s visual arrangement, as seen in his piece, “haiku #62.”

    For further examples, see also “Three Haiku, Two Tanka” by Philip Appleman and Robert Hass’s “After the Gentle Poet Kobayashi Issa.” In addition, see the Imagist poets of the early 20th century, most notably Ezra Pound.
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    Not that I know him.

    Y'all can think what you want of that guy. He doesn't care. The Higher Person isn't any of you. He asked what I thought I was doing destroying a ville. Those are still his children.

    didn't know what o say to a ghost. Was still holding a dead baby. Little jarbrains surrounded the Sgt while he buried the little guy. And then everybody fucking died. Not telling any of you anything esle except this

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    Time, And Reality
    old dry riverbed
    broken limb, hard frozen ground
    sun-perch, ocean breeze

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    Seen And Noted

    foggy dawn, old road
    new car grill, dead butterfly
    short sunset shadows

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    Seen and Scenes

    two old red tractors
    orchard, trees and red apples
    desert cacti blooms

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    Things That Truly Delight

    hot cup of coffee
    noon sun, flower blossoms red
    moon, sky gleaming bright

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    Vanished

    one silent moment
    horses upon distant hills
    empty prairie breeze

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    Life Views

    high trail, rocky ledge
    winter's beauty, snowy ground
    fallen tree, red plums

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot View Post
    Exasperated

    crumpled paper, floor
    grapevines, leaves on frozen ground
    poet, midnight moon

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    Copyright © Robert Lindley | Year Posted 2018
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    Last edited by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot; 02-26-2019 at 09:10 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
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    Bye-bye, gang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    Bye-bye, gang.

    I have no idea why you thought it was a good idea to come in here and shit in Tyr's thread like this.


    And now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightTrain View Post
    I have no idea why you thought it was a good idea to come in here and shit in Tyr's thread like this.


    And now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
    Saw his post the other day and knew it wasn't going to end well - and I personally would have deleted it as well. Robert has put in hundreds of hours writing here - and doesn't need someone fucking with him and/or mocking him somehow. Uncool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street View Post
    Bye-bye, gang.
    I removed your post not only because it was a direct attempt to try to insult me but also because you were deliberately demeaning and misusing a poetry form for some personal dislike you must have of me. Had you posted a true haiku -which are never in the form of an attack or insult, it would still be present for others to read. I did take quite some time to decided to just remove it.
    Whoever you are, I am not a guy anybody has ever got by with insulting or attacking without my taking some form of action that puts a stop to it.
    If you have some kind of problem with me , come face me like a man.
    I am so very fond of face to face settling issues, in fact I always get a big kick out of doing just that. Always have..
    So you want to cry and run, well so be it..
    This is about creative writing/poetry--not political discourse/debate or of a flame section.
    Jim has the cage, go there for your stupidity..
    Or else just run away-- matters not even a damn cow-fart to me which one you do.
    I've put in over 50 years writing and will not let some yahoo come here to shit on it..--Tyr
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    A Southern Memory

    dusty, winding road
    cotton crops glowing bright white
    Mississippi mud

    Robert J. Lindley, 3-25-2019
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