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    Default NFL BANS Kneeling During Anthem

    I might start watching again... IDK...

    New policy requires on-field players, personnel to stand for anthem


    ATLANTA -- NFL owners have unanimously approved a new national anthem policy that requires players to stand if they are on the field during the performance but gives them the option to remain in the locker room if they prefer, it was announced Wednesday.


    The policy subjects teams to a fine if a player or any other team personnel do not show respect for the anthem. That includes any attempt to sit or kneel, as dozens of players have done during the past two seasons to protest racial inequality and police brutality. Those teams also will have the option to fine any team personnel, including players, for the infraction.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...-anthem-policy

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    Political correctness

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    Political correctness
    More like damage control... stop the financial hemorrhaging.

    Businesses tend to take such measures when facing bankruptcy.

    The NFL is a business.
    Last edited by High_Plains_Drifter; 05-23-2018 at 05:33 PM.

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    Guess a compromise is better than nothing.
    “When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.” Edumnd Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Guess a compromise is better than nothing.
    I'd be willing to bet more conservatives watch the NFL than liberals. So why the NFL thought it was OK to allow players to piss on the flag and national anthem was beyond me.

    I guess sometimes they just have to learn the hard way.

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    I realize this is not going to be a popular opinion on this matter, but...


    I don't agree with the decision. Let them kneel if they so choose.


    Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with them kneeling, but I do believe it's their right.
    "I am allergic to piety, it makes me break out in rash judgements." - Penn Jillette
    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "The man who invented the telescope found out more about heaven than the closed eyes of prayer ever discovered." - Robert G. Ingersoll

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I realize this is not going to be a popular opinion on this matter, but...


    I don't agree with the decision. Let them kneel if they so choose.


    Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with them kneeling, but I do believe it's their right.
    Well... the NFL is in the business of making money. Any business is going to curtail something it's employees are doing if it's costing them money.

    Say someone owns a restaurant and their wait staff was telling people to piss off, well that restaurant owner is going to tell them not to do that anymore.

    Really doesn't have anything to do with rights at that point. The people have all the right in the world to tell people to piss off, just not at work. NFL players are at work. I think the NFL has every right to tell them to stand or pay up or go somewhere else.

    That's my two cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjmick View Post
    I realize this is not going to be a popular opinion on this matter, but...


    I don't agree with the decision. Let them kneel if they so choose.


    Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with them kneeling, but I do believe it's their right.
    I can respect your opinion, but you're correct in that I am not going to agree with it. I've seen people die for those Colors. Some things shouldn't be disrespected in the name of someone's warped political cause. The symbol of this Nation is one.

    If you hate this Nation so much that you feel the need to disrespect it, its symbol and all the people who have died for that flag to be where it is, then leave. There's a whole big World out there waiting swallow you up.
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    This whole kneeling thing was a farce anyway. If these players were so passionate about police brutality towards blacks, then why didn't they go kneel in front of a cop shop?

    It made zero sense to piss on our flag and national anthem. They were showing disrespect to our flag and national anthem, not cops.

    It was stupid.
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    I am glad the owners all pressed for this, and was thinking to myself before -
    "If you do not want to stand, then stay in the locker room."

    Exactly what the League and Owners said. The league should inspire unity and
    honor among the employees - PLAYERS! The ones doing the protest were a minority of players.

    Imagine a military member or Police, Fire or First Responders, refusing to stand during a program
    that featured the Anthem. Military would be written up pronto. Police or Fire,
    suspended or canned, I would bet. Remember how many Cops, Firefighters, and
    other First Responders died at 9/11?

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...tand/23441848/

    Trump and Pence on the decision:
    https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ules/23442041/
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    A Deplorable!

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    Too little too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Diamond View Post
    Too little too late.
    That's what I'm thinking... and we'll see if they even enforce it.

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    Wonder what would happen to a Russian Olympic athlete who refused to stand for the Russian anthem ... or an Islamic extremist who refused to assume the position and chant the hate prayer along with the others ...

    No I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Wonder what would happen to a Russian Olympic athlete who refused to stand for the Russian anthem ... or an Islamic extremist who refused to assume the position and chant the hate prayer along with the others ...

    No I don't.
    The Russian - arrested and thrown in a gulag.
    The islamist - his head would be sawed off.

    The American - praised for being "brave."

    Go figure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Wonder what would happen to a Russian Olympic athlete who refused to stand for the Russian anthem ... or an Islamic extremist who refused to assume the position and chant the hate prayer along with the others ...

    No I don't.
    Quote Originally Posted by High_Plains_Drifter View Post
    The Russian - arrested and thrown in a gulag.
    The islamist - his head would be sawed off.
    The American - praised for being "brave."
    Go figure...
    so do we want to be like Russia and the Islamist? Are they the models?
    Forced worship "respect" of the state symbols and forced worship of Muslim symbols and Mohamed?

    And I don't see many former or current gov't employees or military praising them for being brave. Not even the heads of the NFL or NBA.


    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
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    EXACTLY!
    Freedom ...but not like that. it's to horrible to bear.
    Left and right both have their Politically correct lines.
    At which point thinking stops and only sustained emotional outrage, belittling of the offenders, then beating the offenders into submission, off the public stage and out of their jobs is in order.

    On collage campuses or the professional sports fields there's not much difference.
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

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